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This tweak definitely made everything look better but unfortunately killed my FPS. I get about 11-16 fps on my test run which is an approach at dusk into Gatwick in the Aerosoft Airbus. The only major difference between your rig and mine is that I have a 4770k at 4.0 ghz.


 


Baffling.


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Hi Baffling,


 


As you mentioned in your message, these tweaks are made for those, like me, for enjoy VFR flying over the magnificent ORBX sceneries. The Aerosoft airbus is a FPS killer and it would do the same for me. This is why I fly with less demanding aircrafts (native, majestic Dash, QW Avro) as I do not wish to compromise on the max gamey settings. more specifically scenery. No one can have a combination of max scenery and very demanding aircrafts, we must all balance according to our specs and preferences.


Have a nice day


Patrick, Geneva.


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Hi Baffling,

 

As you mentioned in your message, these tweaks are made for those, like me, for enjoy VFR flying over the magnificent ORBX sceneries. The Aerosoft airbus is a FPS killer and it would do the same for me. This is why I fly with less demanding aircrafts (native, majestic Dash, QW Avro) as I do not wish to compromise on the max gamey settings. more specifically scenery. No one can have a combination of max scenery and very demanding aircrafts, we must all balance according to our specs and preferences.

Have a nice day

Patrick, Geneva.

 

 

Ahh no wonder, I see why now. Kinda guessed it was the airbus after all. Thanks for the explanation though.

 

By the way that was not my signature lol. I meant it was a baffling scenario that I couldn't figure out.

 

TheBoom

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Hi Teecee, I am also answering on comments from Michael63 and TymK, after 3 weeks on intensive testings of all values and Prepar3D.cfg and the Nvidia configuration tool.    My conclusions of course are in line with my solid bu not higher end PC specs and might not work on all PC.s. With more testings I will certainly also adapt some values. 

 

The first culprit to the bad graphic impression we have first in P3D (v2.4) is definitely FXAA which gives a too polished unrealistic graphic, turn it off on your P3D graphic page you will get much more sharp textures.

 

On the same page, I have MSAA 8xsamples, Texture filtering = anisotropic 16x, Texture resolution 4096x4096, Vsync is on with tripple buffering checked, and my target frame rate blocked at 30fps. Remember to replicate the 30fps in the Nvidia cfg tool by selecting Vsinc = half refresh rate for coherence between Nvidia and P3D.

 

In the P3D.cfg file, I have entered Fiber-frame-time-fraction = 0.11, created a new chapter (JOBSCHEDULER) with AffinityMask= 243 (ideal for a quad core Intel CPU with HT on). Under the graffic section, do not forget the old HighMemFix=1 and set texture quality to 6, you will see a huge improvement with your textures.

 

As I am not in front of my P3D PC now, I cannot give more details but will forward my P3D and Nvidia.cfg files tomorrow if someone is interested for more details.

 

Regards, Patrick, Geneva 

Hello Patrick,

Please tell me where I can find the NVIDIA cfg tool. I have a Geforce GTX 760.

reg/.

Piet de Geus

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Hi 

 

i just followed this post advices ;  doubled my fps , especially at heavy airports, and without any blurry

awesome

thx

 


As requested, for those interested, please find a copy of my Prepar3d.cfg file, I have highlighted the change I made:

 

[Display]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
TEXTURE_FILTERING=16
MSAA=8
SSAA=0
VSYNC=1
FXAA=0
TRIPLE_BUFFER=1
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30
TextureMaxLoad=6

WideViewAspect=False
FullScreenExclusive=True
FullScreenAutoFill=True
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=False
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=False
InfoPauseEnable=False
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=False
InfoOverspeedEnable=False
InfoWeaponSystemEnable=True
InfoCountermeasureEnable=True

FullScreen=True
[sCENERY]
POP_FREE_AUTOGEN=1
AUTOGEN_BATCH_LOD=2
AUTOGEN_TREE_MAX_DRAW_DISTANCE=9500.000000
AUTOGEN_TREE_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_LOD=2500.000000
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5
[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=243
[Main]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.11
DisablePreload=1
HideInfoText=1

User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter, Submersible, ExternalSim
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
SimObjectPaths.6=SimObjects\Submersible
SimObjectPaths.7=SimObjects\Weapons
SimObjectPaths.8=SimObjects\Countermeasures
LabelsSupported=Airplane, Helicopter
Location=0,0,140,39,\\.\DISPLAY1
LocationFullScreen=0,0,1920,1080,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=1
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
SAVE_AND_LOAD_PANEL_STATE=0
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
QUICKTIPS=1
[Weather]
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=1
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=5  This limit the distance to 80 miles which is fine for IFR. Above this value, huge drop in FPS.
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=1
VolumetricFog=1
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[slewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[slewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[slewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
[DynamicHeadMovement]
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0
[GRAPHICS]
SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=3 (important change the value for any other number for any change in the cfg file)
HIGHMEMFIX=1

MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1
TESSELLATION=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096
NUM_LIGHTS=4
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
LENSFLARE=1
HDR=1
BLOOM_LEVEL=2
SHADOW_QUALITY=4
TERRAIN_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=0
CLOUD_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=0
OBJECT_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=2
CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=0
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0
CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12
GROUND_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=2048 If you are using ground shadow (terrain) never go higher than this value, drop in FPS !
CLOUD_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512

SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_ULTRA=0.850000
EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
EFFECTS_DISTANCE=2
TEXTURE_QUALITY=6 (This one had a huge impact on texture quality visual)
IMAGE_QUALITY=1

See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660.0.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=0
GADensity=0
FreewayDensity=0
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=0
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=1
[AContain]
ShowLabels=0
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=6.500000
SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=30
TESSELLATION_FACTOR=90
MESH_RESOLUTION=25
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=5
AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=5
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=1
WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=1
WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0
WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0
WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=1
WATER_CLARITY=30
WATER_DETAIL=2   As you will see on my shots, no need to put water higher than medium, huge drops in FPS if higher.
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1700 (This one is very efficient, you keep game setting to maximum and it reduce the number of trees 
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=2000      and buildings but KEEP them in all locations as opossed to reducing in game setting where some

[ATC]                                                                                        some locations loose all trees and vegetation. Very important to avoid blueries in high density areas.)
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=0
UsePilotVoice=1
PilotVoice=0
[iNTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=0
MEASURE=0
[REALISM]
PFactor=1.000000
Torque=1.000000
GyroEffect=1.000000
CrashTolerance=1.000000
General=1.000000
UnlimitedFuel=False
AllowEngineDamage=False
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=True
RealMixture=True
StressDamage=False
GEffect=True
ManualLights=True
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=False
CrashDetection=False
OnCrashAction=0
AutoTrim=False
[ATTACHMENTS]
WeaponHighlight=False
HighlightDuration=1.000000
AutoWeaponSwitching=False
UnlimitedWeapons=False
UnlimitedCountermeasures=False
IgnoreAttachmentWeight=True
IgnoreAttachmentForces=True
[RECORDER]
RecordAITraffic=True
RecordAirportVehicles=True
RecordLeisureBoats=True
[sIM]
SYSCLOCK=0
OPTIMIZE_PARTS=0
[sOUND]
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
PrimaryPlaybackDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoicePlaybackDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoiceCaptureDevice={DEF00003-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
UISound=1
SOUND_FADER1=0.300000
SOUND_FADER2=0.300000
SOUND_FADER3=0.300000
SOUND_FADER4=0.300000
[sTARTUP]
DEMO=0
STARTUP_DEMO=
LOAD_SIMDIRECTOR=1
LoadWindow=1
[uSERINTERFACE]
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\Prepar3D
SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=1
RestoreTimeOnMove=0
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
Map_Orientation=2
MUTE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=4096
[Misc]
Com_Rate=7
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccoutPassword=0
VoiceVolume=0.600000
 

My Nvidia settings will follow. Cheers.  

 

 

This doubled my fps without any blurry

 

thanks a lot !

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Anybody try these settings on P3Dv3 ?

I did, because that was the tweak i used on 2.5.

So i did put them in v3. But the result was disastrous.

The best tweak (for me) in v3. Is no tweak at all except make sure i keep shadows @512

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I did, because that was the tweak i used on 2.5.

So i did put them in v3. But the result was disastrous.

The best tweak (for me) in v3. Is no tweak at all except make sure i keep shadows @512

Worth knowing as I was thinking of giving it a try to see if it would work!

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Thanks Gauthier

So I gather no cfg tweaks but what about the nVidia inspector settings - do they work for V3 ?

 

i don t know i don t have the inspector.    but i sure set vsync to half refresh rate in nvidia control panel

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Thanks Guys. So were you able to get clear crisp and sharp scenery in V3 without any tweaks at this stage?


My aim is to get my v3 to the same level of performance and eye candy as v2.5 based on the setting in the start of this topic.


My v3 is no where near that stage right now as I am still trying to get PFPX, NAVIGRAH AIRAC cycles installed and setup. Once I have done this and tested a pmdg 777 flight successfully, I will embark on trying different setting in the new version to acheive the best performace vs eye candy.


Patrick, are you onboard v3 yet or holding off ? If yes, have you achieved similiar results as v2.5 ?


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I thought I would dig around online for P3dv3 tweaks and ran into Rob Ainscough's youtube vid on disabling Ht and the effect on FPX and VAS.. Very interesting.. have a look.


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W5CeDlRMaQ


 


I then searched some more and found his settings..


http://www.robainscough.com/Prepar3D_Settings_2.html


 


My setup is between his:


meduim settings http://www.robainscough.com/P3DV3_Settings_Medium.html


and High http://www.robainscough.com/P3DV3_Settings_High.html


 


Hope this helps all who visit this thread for P3Dv3.


 


Regards,


Mario


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Hi guys,


 


I did not upgrade yet to V3, still on 2.6. 


 


When upgrading, I always start with no tweaks and try to add them one by one if and when needed. 


 


If 3.0 provides the same visual without tweaks that I had in 2.5/2.6 with the tweaks, I would be surprised, but its worth a try. Getting rid of HT would also be an option.


 


I will keep you posted when upgrade has been achieved. 


 


Kind regards,


Patrick


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Patrick can you help me?

 

Since I use your CFG I really get very good improvments but now I have scenery "black spots" like this ones above :( Can you help me in some way?

 

blue1.jpg

 

After 30 seconds in the same place

 

blue2.jpg

 

Another place, and look again the above area again blue (inside the red circle)...

 

blue3.jpg

 

Do you have any ideia? :/

 

Thanks 

Edited by Pedro Azevedo

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Hi Pedro,

 

It seems that your textures do not have enough time to load properly. Try to play with the fiberframetimefraction by slightly increasing the value to 0.11, 0.12, 0.13, until you see an improvement. Increasing this value might, as a conter effect, also reduce your FPS, try to find the right balance.

 

Kind regards

Patrick  

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On 11/23/2015, 8:17:29, patrickjorand said:

Hi Pedro,

 

It seems that your textures do not have enough time to load properly. Try to play with the fiberframetimefraction by slightly increasing the value to 0.11, 0.12, 0.13, until you see an improvement. Increasing this value might, as a conter effect, also reduce your FPS, try to find the right balance.

 

Kind regards

Patrick  

Still the same.

 

This only happens for me at Portuguese areas, do you think this have something about a Iberic Mesh that I have? because in the other parts of Europe etc I don´t have this black spots.

 

Regards

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P3Dv3 Settings update :

 

This thread is one to watch: http://www.simforums.com/Forums/switch-to-p3d_topic53980_page1.html

In short, very few tweaks is the name of the game.

 

My personal settings are:

In game

ANSO x16 +  MSAA 8 samples All the other sliders to suite your requirements. Start with full right and work your way backwards for Scenery TAB.

Water set to medium is good enough for me. I set textures to 1024 which was good for me visually too.

My frames are set to unlimited with G-Sync enabled in both full screen and windowed mode as I have a G-Sync enabled Monitor and GFX card. (see sig)

 

.cfg contains just these settings.

[MAIN]
HideInfoText=1   still gets rid of all the screen readout junk unless you want it
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.10 to .33   adjustable (mine is 0.10)

 

[SIM]

OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1

 

NO Nvidia Inspector setup at all

That's it.. no further tweaks and no DSR setting.

 

Cheers,

Mario

Edited by a340500
Missed NVI settings mention

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So far my best settings for P3D v3 are the following:

 

hardware specs: 

Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.6 GHz with Hyper-Threading enabled

GTX 970 video card

 

 

added to Prepar3D.cfg:

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80

LOD_RADIUS=6.500000

 

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=85

 

[MAIN]

FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01

 

 

settings in P3D v3:

 

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Edited by reston

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Just one remark on your settings: I get badly flickering shadows for all Shadow Quality settings below the highest -  which indeed incurs a noticeably performance toll, though.

 

Kind regards, Michael

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