John Venema 9,314 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hello all, We are not far from FTX Global VECTOR entering beta testing, so here are a few pre-beta before/after comparisons in some locations in Asia and Oceania. You can clearly see the improvements the VECTOR product makes to FTX Global, and this is without the openLC layer included, which will vastly improve the results further. And a bonus 'after' shot from Taipei: Obviously we are early in the development cycle but there will be many more screenshots to come in the coming month as we work towards a late November/early December release. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Lincoln 759 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Looks fantastic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fischkopp 321 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 JV many thanks for these pictures. They show very clearly what all is missing in the FSX representation of cities and landscapes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cabnz 108 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Beautiful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YoYo 160 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Just one question: When? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 737 50 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Looking good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnR 11 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Cant wait ! Looking good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alex330 83 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Cant wait ! Looking good Indeed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ricky1088 7 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 without the openLC layer already look best, adding that will become super best credit card stand-by,stand-by........ impressed. cheers, ricky1088 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mallard 892 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Desperately waiting for the LC... Now we have the great textures, but quite a large part of the world (especially the coastlines and waterways) still look sad on account of FSX's original landclass. Cheers Mallard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simmerhead2 37 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Stunning work guys! You have finally turned the flight sim into an earth sim! Are there areas you haven't been able to cover with FTX Global Vector, or is this a truly Global package? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Venema 9,314 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Vector covers the whole planet, every nook and cranny. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airlifter 19 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Looking great guys... Will likely push me over the edge and make me switch from UTX/GEX, which will then also drive me to buy Global Base pack... smart move guys Quick question; when and on what schedule do you anticipate to release the OpenLC packs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RODI 82 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Looks very good. Thanks for showing the screens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simmerhead2 37 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Vector covers the whole planet, every nook and cranny. WOW! A new milestone in scenery addon creation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Schnibben 465 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 These shots look really promising John. For me, there is actually no further need to support decision making whether to buy Vector or not - but I would really like to see some comparison shots of Germany. Especially the coastlines at the Baltic Sea and the lakes of the hinterland are quite differently structured and the rendering has so far been truly inadequate. Of course there will always be some bean-counters who will examine even the dimmer nooks and crannies in their closer region (as for me, I'm missing for instance the lake of Richtenberg, but no matter). I'm just curious - however, seeing the lake of Richtenberg is certainly not a precondition to purchase Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Copp 48 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 You can clearly see the improvements the VECTOR product makes to FTX Global, and this is without the openLC layer included, which will vastly improve the results further. John, I noticed in the above shots that a couple of the "3-D" bridges that are in the FSX default vectors are gone in the FTX Global vectors. is that something that's going to be rectified before the release, or are the FSX default bridges not the correct style in the first place? Thanks, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killerknight297 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I guess that prior to installing FTX Vector we will need to uninstall UTX products ?Thanks . Carlos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moonman 238 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Outstanding! Looking very, very much forward to it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derfsxpilot 31 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 hmmm. looks good, but still hate the roads cutting through everything, I know there won´t be an option to disable roads. Could we tweak files to get rid of the roads ? I would love to have the costlines and rivers and everything but the roads...it´s just not for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vora 172 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Desperately waiting for this and OpenLC 3 and P3Dv2... then I'll be a happy panda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
teecee 1,231 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Loving it.. forgive an old guy but these addons get me mixed up,, Will I see the coastline improvement in Au blue,red.green and Gold? in other words do all these new addons improve Orbx payware? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Holger Sandmann 1,151 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hi teecee, good question: normally FTX regions remove all default landscape components and replace them with their own data. However, since the AU regions only contain partial replacement/enhancements of waterbodies then the Oceania Vector product should indeed improve those areas that weren't touched by the AU series. Cheers, Holger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dominique 770 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Vector covers the whole planet, every nook and cranny. It is good to see correct coastlines, river layouts, lakes etc. outside of the US and Europe which have been both,more or less, well covered so far. This is really something new in the FS world that a FS old timer like me has been looking forward to for a long time . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Venema 9,314 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Looking great guys... Will likely push me over the edge and make me switch from UTX/GEX, which will then also drive me to buy Global Base pack... smart move guys Quick question; when and on what schedule do you anticipate to release the OpenLC packs? Europe before end December, North America by end March, then one pack every three months or so. These shots look really promising John. For me, there is actually no further need to support decision making whether to buy Vector or not - but I would really like to see some comparison shots of Germany. Especially the coastlines at the Baltic Sea and the lakes of the hinterland are quite differently structured and the rendering has so far been truly inadequate. Of course there will always be some bean-counters who will examine even the dimmer nooks and crannies in their closer region (as for me, I'm missing for instance the lake of Richtenberg, but no matter). I'm just curious - however, seeing the lake of Richtenberg is certainly not a precondition to purchase I will ensure Richtenberg Lake is well represented John, I noticed in the above shots that a couple of the "3-D" bridges that are in the FSX default vectors are gone in the FTX Global vectors. is that something that's going to be rectified before the release, or are the FSX default bridges not the correct style in the first place? Thanks, Michael Well spotted, I saw that too. These are pre-beta screenshots and likely those suspension bridges are not in Taipei. Last time I was in Taipei I did not see any suspension bridges. Lots of scooters though! (Scooterflow perhaps?) I guess that prior to installing FTX Vector we will need to uninstall UTX products ? Thanks . Carlos Hmm, perhaps not uninstall, but disable first, compare, then decide which you prefer. hmmm. looks good, but still hate the roads cutting through everything, I know there won´t be an option to disable roads. Could we tweak files to get rid of the roads ? I would love to have the costlines and rivers and everything but the roads...it´s just not for me Then you don't fundamentally like how FSX/P3D works, because roads have cut through buildings imagery since the terrain engine was designed over 15 years ago. That said, we are working on algorithms that detect when roads reach urban areas and we will add grey underlays beneath the roads to prevent the "roads on buildings" effect. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newyork_oz 5 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 This is great can`t wait... Well done guys Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
300leex 82 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Can't tell you how happy I am to see you are paying attention to Taiwan, it is appreciated! I can see from the screenshot of Taipei(my home town) is not quite as in real life since it is without OpenLC, but I'm really looking forward for it, you can take my money already! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerdoo 80 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Who needs default when you can fly like this ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KillaBee 8 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Then you don't fundamentally like how FSX/P3D works, because roads have cut through buildings imagery since the terrain engine was designed over 15 years ago. as far as you know, is the same true in P3Dv2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NZ255 9 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Vector covers the whole planet, every nook and cranny. This looks fantastic, we can literately go anywhere and have a great scenery experience. What's the data source? Openstreetmaps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Venema 9,314 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 There are many data sources acrued over two years. Yes OSM is a part of it but there has been a LOT of R&D to get a truly global dataset. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simmerhead2 37 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 There are many data sources acrued over two years. Yes OSM is a part of it but there has been a LOT of R&D to get a truly global dataset. I can imagine it has been quite a bit of work getting an overview and aquiring all the neccessary data. Did you get it in a decent format, or did you have to create new tools to convert it into something usable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grim_Dweller 0 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Thank you for a great product for the flight simulator, I want to ask a question about the FS Global, Vector and open LC; after the installation of a complete package FTX is there a chance of visiting the simulator small islands of the Pacific Ocean (eg-Line Islands), which in most recent findings are not implemented in simulator by default? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Venema 9,314 Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 The Line Islands near Kiribati don't even show up on Google Maps, they are perhaps too small to be part of global data sets we would be using, so they may not make the Vector product. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mac22 1 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Just recently bought FTX Global and impressed with the result so considering Vector.................. But what is Open LC and does Vector need an additional mesh software to work to best effect? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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