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I have "fiddled" with flight simulator since it was just a series of green lines back in the 1980’s. As each new version has been released and become more complex and realistic, the more time I spent

Due to the website I used to upload the photos going out of existence all the photos in my original post are now not showing. So I have tried to reconstruct it here. *****************************

I thought I would post a few photos of some minor modifications to my setup. The first two are of a removable panel to allow much easier removal of the PC. When I built the cockpit I thought that once

wonderful topic, enjoyed reading about your great work on your sim setup tuisong and all the positive replies that have been posted over the years..

...now you've got me thinking about a new tv for the lounge and using the old 40" for a larger monitor...hmmm     :)

 

thanks !

tom

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wonderful topic, enjoyed reading about your great work on your sim setup tuisong and all the positive replies that have been posted over the years..

...now you've got me thinking about a new tv for the lounge and using the old 40" for a larger monitor...hmmm     :)

 

thanks !

tom

That sounds like a great Idea to me Tom.;)

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agree  Tuisong .. been giving it more thought and probably do the TV monitor replacement...hopefully soon..  

the rest of your cockpit ideas are so well done but guess in the future I'm likely to go down the VR path 

(like others are starting to...)

 

tom

 

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Due to the website I used to upload the photos going out of existence all the photos in my original post are now not showing. So I have tried to reconstruct it here.

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I have "fiddled" with flight simulator since it was just a series of green lines back in the 1980’s. As each new version has been released and become more complex and realistic, the more time I spent using it and upgrading everything, you know how it goes. And with the release of FSX my desk became a mess of screens and controls.

 

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With the encouragement of my very supportive wife, I bit the bullet and decided to build a cockpit. (Photos follow)

Of course the first step was to search the net to get as much information as I could. Now I know that there are some really fantastic home cockpits out there, and as I investigated screens, projectors, how best to build curves, what type of aircraft to base it on etc. etc. It struck me that;

A: I don't want to spend years (getting a bit old for that) or vast amounts of money building it, and

B: nor did I want to restrict myself to one type of aeroplane. I love to fly low and slow, though I like light twins as well, up to about the size of a King Air.

 

While I started out drawing up plans and trying to get all technical, it soon became all to much for me and they went in the bin. In the end the planning all centred around the purchase of two near new car seats ($50 each), some pieces of chalk (for drawing on the garage floor) and bits of cardboard (for mock-ups). By using standard sizes of MDF, (to save some cutting), I ended up with a 1.5 x 1.9 x 1.9 m box in the garage. Who wants to look at the outside, after all flying is what its' about for me.

 

As I did not spend too much on the outside I was able to indulge on the things that count. Inside, the main screen is a 42 inch HD TV. (A lot cheaper than a monitor) This gives me a good size to display most of the instruments of which ever type I'm using and a good outside view. Combined with an IR tracker this gives a very realistic experience. Above there are three 20 inch monitors all run through a Matrox TripleHead2Go, which are used for GPS, overhead panels, ATC and anything else I may want. I had used the Matrox TripleHead2Go for the desk top screens, but I did not really Like the way it cut the top and bottom off the picture.

 

I replaced my CH controls with Precision Flight Controls' Beech style yoke with the digital clock, turboprop 6-lever throttle quadrant with G/A button and their Cirrus rudder pedals. The extra cost was money well spent indeed. Also installed is a B206 twist dent collective, and by undoing two screws (the type used to attach a bedhead) the yoke can be removed and the handle of the cyclic attached (with two bolts) to its controller in the floor. Then we can fly helicopters in a matter of minutes. My trim wheel cost about US$49 from Desktop Aviator (steve41053@netscape.com), so now very accurate trim is achievable. You have to make your own mounting for it, but I think it is one of the best controls I have.

 

Now what drives this? Well the PC Pilot magazine has been a massive help in this regard. Being totally confused by all the online articles, I was at the point of despair, when issue 69 arrived. In answer to a readers question they gave their recommendations. Which combined with the tutorial "A Beginners Guide to Flight Simulator" in issue 70, gave me all the information I needed. So off I go to my 'computer man'. Result? I am extremely pleased. I run 'REX2' and 'orbex' (can't wait for the rest of NZ), with just about every slider at max with great results.

 

While there is no way you could say that my set up is realistic when compered to those built by some very dedicated and talented people (who I take my hat off to), it is something that anyone who can use glue, a saw, hammer and screwdriver could put together quite quickly and cheaply. And with a little imagination get completely engrossed in another world.

 

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The well is so the rudder pedals sit flush with the floor. (And no the under carriage is not retractable).

 

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There was a lot of fiddling around to work out the correct position for the seats. I used measurements from a C172 as a base line.

 

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The seats are not evenly spaced. This was so I was sitting in the correct position in relation to the screen.

It also gave me room for a collective.

 

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Next the first sheets went on the sides.

 

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Then the front panel ( the hole is for an extractor fan). And both sides at the rear. These gave me support for attaching more panels to the side. The cardboard is the size of the screen and was used to work out its exact position.

 

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With the position for the screen worked out, everything else had to fit in around it. (What you call making it up as you go along).

 

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Then the sides, just panels glued on top of each other. The door is offset to make use of the standard panel sizes. One of the disadvantages of making it up as you go along was the bad mistake I made at this stage. Which I did not pick up until I started too late. I put the back panels on the wrong way round. Making it more difficult to get in and out because the door does not line up with the gap between thee seats.

 

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The roof goes on. Note that cardboard again.

 

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The top bracket for the screen and then another front panel.

 

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Starting to partition the “electronics bay” (that sounds fancy). The fan is just an old desk fan modified so its controls are next to the pilot. The notch is to allow access to the screen controls. Glad Wrap is very handy for placing between a glued joint and any block of wood put between the joint and the clamp.

 

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This shelf and its arm are attached by two bedhead bolts, with the nuts glued to the back of the screen support. It is to hold the yoke which is held in place with Velcro. (Wonderful stuff.)

 

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This brace is to support the arm and hold it in place without having to use anything other than the weight of the yoke.

 

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All closed in. The bottom sloping panel lifts up to allow access to the “electronics bay”. And the hole on the side is the air-vent for the computer.

 

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Once the cyclic and collective arrived.......

 

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...I realised I hadn’t allowed enough room, depth wise, and had to set about modifying the floor. (I did say I was making it up as I went along).

TIP - get all your controls before you start.

 

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This is to support the top of the screens. It lifts out and allows them to swing down on their brackets.

 

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Making somewhere for the throttle quadrant to sit. Again it’s held in position with Velcro. Where ever I could I used scrap bits of wood.


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Nearly ready to fit out.

 

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Carpet goes down.

 

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It is a bit messy in here and I have been asked why I didn’t make a wiring loom. Been there done that. It looks great, until you have to replace something. Keep it simple I say.

 

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My first layout.(Turns out it's not.) Note how much the yoke obscures the screen.

 

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Ready for rotary flight. Note the two bedhead bolts.

 

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This is how I originally had it set up. However, this is continually changing of course, it's basically the same. When I first put the yoke in I had to change the entry positions of the cables, they went in the back. This made it stick out too much. So, to the sides they went. You can see that I have now had the casing modified so that it no longer covers the screen. ($245 to get that done?) I bet that’s my guarantee gone too.

While I have speakers, I normally only use the headphones for diplomatic reasons. I allowed lots of headroom too. It will get very handy the older and less agile I get. (It's handy now)

 

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To save wiring it for lights, I have a glass panel (salvaged from house renovations) in the roof and a old florescent tube hanging from the garage ceiling. The glass is fixed at a slight angle, not flush with the roof. This creates a gap for ventilation. The fan draws in air down the back of the screens and out. The fan also helps the air flow through the computer. Believe me when I say it can get quite hot in there with the fan off.

 

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So this is it from the outside. The colour scheme was dictated by what leftover paint I had laying around. The windows are that sticky stuff kids cover their school books with. Dad called my mum Katy, hence the rego KTY.

So now I can shut myself in my relatively inexpensive little box with no distractions, and be a very happy little simmer.

 

While I’m not talented enough to design anything like the freeware (or any ware) aircraft or scenery that is so generously shared by others, and which has given me so much enjoyment. I hope that by posting this, and just maybe giving someone a bit of an idea or planting that seed so to speak, and they say “ Hay! I can do that!), I have given a little back to the Flight Sim community.:)

 

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Some of my other post that also lost their photos.

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I thought I would post a few photos of some minor modifications to my setup. The first two are of a removable panel to allow much easier removal of the PC. When I built the cockpit I thought that once it was in it would rarely have to be move. Yes, I am too old to be that naive   :banghead:. Another mistake I made was with the offset door which does not line up with the gap between the seats. If I had put the narrow panel on the other side it would have been perfect and a breeze to get in.

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I also painted the inside mat black to remove any distractions in my peripheral vision. I stole that idea from some of you. Thanks. And made a black curtain to hid any books etc. on the shelf.

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I have a friend who suffers from Parkinson's disease and likes to use the simulator from time to time. And with the IR tracker turned off he makes a pretty good job of it. A big problem though is he was having a hard job getting in and even harder getting out. So I have put in a removable hand rail, it's not very elegant but does the job. (After all, if he can't get out, I would never get a turn.   :) )

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This is Great! I remember reading this post a while back when I was just getting into ORBX and it helped inspire me to build my own setup. You’ve done a wonderful job here, very cool to see!

Well done! :)

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 Congratulations. Your work is very inspiring. However, lacking tool set skills, etc...I am sticking with a 27 inch wide basic monitor, and a second one for LITTLENAVMAP. Works well for me and my imagination, augmented by Saitek triple quadrant set, plus CH yoke. 

 

Sherm

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Great to see you back on the forum Roger and going to the effort of uploading the photos again. No doubt you will inspire many more builds.

Cheers Graeme :)

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On 5/17/2019 at 6:33 PM, Ziggy said:

This is Great! I remember reading this post a while back when I was just getting into ORBX and it helped inspire me to build my own setup. You’ve done a wonderful job here, very cool to see!

Well done! :)

 

On 5/17/2019 at 6:55 PM, oldboy43 said:

Very nice and beautiful work tuisong. You're very skilful.

Cheers

Karoly

 

On 5/17/2019 at 11:40 PM, shermank said:

 Congratulations. Your work is very inspiring. However, lacking tool set skills, etc...I am sticking with a 27 inch wide basic monitor, and a second one for LITTLENAVMAP. Works well for me and my imagination, augmented by Saitek triple quadrant set, plus CH yoke. 

 

Sherm

 

On 5/18/2019 at 11:21 AM, boetie said:

Great to see you back on the forum Roger and going to the effort of uploading the photos again. No doubt you will inspire many more builds.

Cheers Graeme :)

 

Thanks guys.

 

I'm please to know that I helped to inspire you Ziggy. Maybe you could post a photo. I would like to see it.

 

Hi Graeme, the reason i have not been active is that I have been having a love hate relationship with the sim. And have been in a big sulk with it for about 18 months. The whole thing crashed and after reinstalling everything, I would just get it working nicely and something would go wrong again, and again, and again. One of the biggest hassles has been the controls continually dropping out. However, I'm having another go, hoping that my long absence has taught it a lesson. :)

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Thank you for reconstructing the post with the photos.  That of itself is worthy of the actual work done.  Very funny bit about you building the chair to get your friend out so you can use the sim. :-) 

 

The photos and their description go very well together. Much appreciated!

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By the way, I'm betting that this post, and hopefully the photos that go with them, will out live us and the sim-pit for as long as there is something called the Internet. It'll be your testament to your existence in flight sim world, and maybe in this world too  :-)

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