active TE England SE & Central Night Light and distance issue

[sam686 0]

Hi Guys, 

 

I wonder if you can help me, I have both True Earth scenery packs SE and Central. The issue happens on both packs and is to do with my night lighting. Randomly the night lighting will disappear as you see in my attached picture and then randomly come back. The attached is zoomed in so you can see some building lights and you can see that the scenery pack is there because of the buildings being loaded in but the night lights come and go. 

 

The night lights will always load in to the sim however the disappearance would normally happen between the flight. Im not using no lua scripts other than a cloud based one called VesXV.lua. 

 

An additional issue that i would also like to raise is that when flying the lights look like the only take up half of my field of view distance. (When working correctly) is there a way i can maximise the view distance of the lights as the normal day time scenery looks to be just fine. 

 

I have tried to do my own research or look through the forum to see if anyone has had any similar issues but I haven't been lucky enough to come across anything. 

 

Many Thanks 

 

Sam 

 

Edited Sunday at 11:57 PM by sam686

[Sentry11 89]

@sam686   If you haven't XP's Graphics slider for "Number 0f World Objects" set to maximum, then do so and see if that helps.

[sam686 0]

Hi 

 

Thanks for the reply. My setting is one below max however would that really cause this issue for all lights to disappear and then randomly re appear ten odd minutes later. 

[Sentry11 89]

Could you please attach a copy of your log.txt, file and a screenshot of your XP Graphic settings?

[sam686 0]

Hi, 

 

Sure, I'm very new to this do you mind telling me where the log.txt file is. The screenshot of the graphics in x plane i can handle no problem

Edited Monday at 02:28 PM by sam686

[Sentry11 89]

XP's root folder, the same folder your Custom Scenery folder is in. It's called "log" without the extension.
 

[sam686 0]

Hi, 

 

Here is my log file and also attached is a picture of my graphic settings. 

Log.txt

[Sentry11 89]

Set the XP visual effects slider in the graphic settings to "High HDR)" and give it a try.

If that doesn't solve the lighting problem then temporary remove all third party plugins from XP's plugin folder except XP's plugins and it's other files in there and then give it a go.

[sam686 0]

Ok thanks I will try and report back aprechiate the help.

[Jon Clarke 1,788]

8 hours ago, Sentry11 said:

Set the XP visual effects slider in the graphic settings to "High HDR)" and give it a try.

If that doesn't solve the lighting problem then temporary remove all third party plugins from XP's plugin folder except XP's plugins and it's other files in there and then give it a go.

The XP settings pic from @sam686 shows his XP Visual Effects settings already at High. Raising it higher still may increase the lights effect etc, but I think that one of many lighting mods would achieve what he is looking for.

I use Enhanced Lights and EXT_World_Lights. Here is a link to another mod which will do exactly what you want:

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/55409-enhanced-x-plane-11-night-lights-and-graphic-quality/

Also Sam have you not tried using Vulkan as this allows higher settings to be set and higher FPS? Your pic shows Vulkan as disabled so you must be using OpenGL.

 

[sam686 0]

Hi Guys, 

 

Thank you both for trying to help me solve the issue. I think the main issue here is that the Orbx scenery night lights dissappear through flight and come back again. The Orbx night lights across England from the packs that I bought from Orbx look really good when working. 

 

With Vulkan, I only have a gtx 1070 so with buildings on max I'm getting around 25 to 35. I'm concerned if I start bumping everything up to max its going to kill my FPS. Hence why I haven't really looked in to or know any knowledge about Vulkan. 

 

I'm just struggling to understand why the Orbx night lights come and go and when they do go, the scenery looks like attached which I hope you guys would agree is not right. 

[Jon Clarke 1,788]

1. Just try with Vulkan. You can always easily revert back to OpenGL with an untick of the option and a restart of XP.

2. I don't know why lights disappear and then reappear but I can ask the Dev if he has any ideas.

[Tony Wroblewski 901]

I'm not sure why this is happening, as this doesn't happen for me locally when using Vulkan so I can't reproduce it

 

Are you having issues with LOD (drawing distance) in general, i.e. Are houses and other objects also popping in and out of view?

[sam686 0]

Hi Tony, 

 

No the houses are all looking good its literally just the night lights. I am yet to try on Vulkan hoping g to get around to this tomorrow and will post an update. Is there any way that I can increase drawing distance ? 

 

Many Thanks 

 

Sam 

[Jon Clarke 1,788]

I will let Tony address your question regarding drawing distance but would ask you if you have any plugins and if so what are they?

[Tony Wroblewski 901]

Yes you can hack it somewhat, but it's not easy... the lights are just the default X-Plane streetlights that are placed along roads. If it were our own lights objects we could increase the LOD distance of them, but hacking at default objects is not recommended. What is a mystery is why your system is culling these lights and others aren't.

 

You can try one of the hacks here:

 

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/36942-night-city-textures-extended-lights-lod/

 

This one will change the LOD values for the lights, but it will impact performance all around. I've not tried it myself, but I know others have used similar and got decent results.

 

Let us know if this works for you.

 

 

 

 

[sam686 0]

Hi, 

 

I am not too bothered about the render distance, its more of a concern about the night lights randomly disappearing and coming back. lt did it again when I was testing on a flight from Paris to Gatwick last night. Standard night lights in France was fine got over the channel obrx scenery started showing in the distance (including night lights) I was at around 15,000. A couple of minutes more flying, night lights disappeared scenery showed exactly like the screenshot in this thread. Then approaching Gatwick at around 10,000 they came back and stayed there until end of flight. Just to ad the night lights or night scenery that I use over Paris DID NOT disappear like Orbx.

 

I have tried vulkan setting however when I enable it, I choose my airport stand with in xplane and when I load into the flight the sim crashes on zibo part of the load when vulkan is ticked. So unless anyone know why that could be or if we are confident that could resolve my night light issue I am happy to troubleshoot. 

 

I would just like to say thank you to all who has commented and trying to help so far, I do really aprechiate it and hopefully we can get this resolved together soon to then add to the knowledge base if any other sim users have the same problem. 

 

Tonight I will try and get some video content of the issue to maybe help you guys determine what could be wrong.

 

Many Thanks 

 

Sam 

Edited 2 hours ago by sam686

[sam686 0]

And in reply to you @Jon Clarke please see attached my plug ins and if needed  my scenery folder again. 

[sam686 0]

I am also able to get in to the sim with vulkan now so i will try what you said Jon and report back.