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Hi

Orbx Central showed me numerous airport updates today which I all executed, except for Vector.
All updates worked fine.
But now I am missing Autogen in the surroundings of the airports and in other places of the Orbx landscapes.
How can I get back the Autogen?

 

Further question:
When updating Vector do I loose my manual elevation settings?
Auto-Configuration prouced a mess in the past.

 

Thanks for any helpful answers

Ernst

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Hello,

as regards Vector, please create a profile and save it before any update.

Then you can reapply it after the update is complete.

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Hi Nick

Thanks for your Vector reply, I'll do that!

Do you have a solution for my missing autogen problem?

Ernst

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Ernst

Do you have third party add-ons?

And have you noticed the missing of auogen just now, not previously?

Regards.

 

Carlos

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Hi Carlos

 

Thank you for looking into my problem!

 

Yes, I do have third party add-ons.

I was not aware of any autogen problem before this update.

 

What was special: I became aware of these updates because I intended to purchase new KBUR.

I first made all these updates and the purchase at the end.

KBUR was installed properly, except for the scenery.cfg entry and the KBUR user guide.pdf, which were missing and which I added myself, manually.

So, this install was not as usual, perhaps a sign for any other update mishaps?

 

Autogen slider is set a high, I am using P3Dv4.5 HF3

 

Ernst

 

 

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Hi Ernst

 

It does seems something is wrong as KBUR should have been added normally, I believe you should not have added it manually

I would first run the verify files tool for Object flow

And would ask @Matteo Veneziani why the scenery was no added authomatically

 

Do you have any of these?

Lukla

Channia

France VRF

Skiathos

Kos ( through Gaya or through Orbx?)

 

Are you familiar with the Auto configurator Merger?

 

I am having problems with some airports (altitude after the updates too that I'm dealing with 3rd pty developers)

 

Cheers

 

Carlos

 

 

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Hi Carlos

 

KBUR is showing ok now and in fact was a different process of purchase etc.

 

Out of your listing I have Kos through Gaya.

I installed this end of May by the add-on.xml method and had no autogen problems since.

 

No, unfortunately I am not familiar with the Auto Configuration Merger, but I remember, quite some time ago, that Orbx forced us to a sort of Autogen Merge.

This worked without any problems to me.

Maybe there is a problem with this merge?

Can you give me advises?

 

Re your elevation probs: have you updated Vector? I saved a profile as suggested by Nick, but I am still hesitating to update...

 

Ernst

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Hi

would you mind running the verify files tool for Kos, Object flow and libraries and test?

 

Let me know if there has been an improvement

 

If not uncheck Kos from P3D scenery library, close the sim, run Central and test

 

Regards,

 

Carlos

 

 

 

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Hello Ernst,

 

I have had the same problem after updating some sceneries in P3Dv4.5 HF3.
I could solve the issues with reinstalling the vector landclass.
I uninstalled vector first, then made a new installation.
After 8gb download i get an installation error that 36 files are failed to scan,

then i have clickt "Verify Files" and that solved the issues.
Now the autogen works again as it should.

 

Regards

Ulrich

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Correction !!

 

I was rejoiced too early, after a few more tests I found that the autogen is still missing in some places.
e.g.
Monterey
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Portland
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sigh  :(

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Hello,

please state which other developers' products you have or have had installed.

There are some which have been known to rewrite autogen descriptions with results

similar to that shown in your images.

Thanks

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Hello Nick,
I haven't installed any new sceneries in the last time.
I have a lot of other sceneries installed from other developers,
free and payware, but had no problems with the autogen until now.
The issues occurs, shortly after the Orbx Central has installed some scenery updates.

Unfortunately I no longer know which new addons have been updated in the last two weeks,

but I will try to find them and verify the files with the central, like i've done with the vector files.
I will also deactivate AS Lukla, to check if there is a prob.

 

Ulrich

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Hello All

 

Thanks for all your contributions!

I have followed Carlos' suggestions (removed Kos, ran files verification for all Orbx sceneries involved, including PNW etc) but all without any effect regarding improved autogen.

Mainly missing are trees, buildings seem to be ok.

I  tested an number of Orbx sceneries and found, that the most severly hurt airfields seem to be within PNW.

E.g 11S Sekiu (important to me) is typical: the comlete area around the airport is toally bald, not a single tree.

Similar with 0S9 Jeffersen, Vashon island, Vernonia, CYSE Squamish, and other places in BC.

Europe and the parts northern of PNW seem to be unaffected.

I have searched in the AutogenConfigurationMerger folder. The latest entry in P3Dv4 of default.xml is of 03.04.2020 and contains a number of TE_US_xxxx entries.

But I am not having any TE scenery!

Well I am not expert at all with this AutogenConfigurationMerger, frankly I don't understand anything bout it.

 

But if the probable reason for my problem can be found there, I am willed to learn.

 

Orbx some time ago has started this new autogen merge. Isn't it possible to use their default.xml without any TE-entries?

 

2 or 3 days before the Orbx update I was at 11S Sekiu and all was fine, no new install after that.

 

Btw: Vector was upgraded yesterday, even I had set Central to not upgrade automatically !?

 

hope there is an easy and quick solution!

 

Thanks for all help

 

Ernst

 

 

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I could solve my autogen problem with verify my open landclass files

and after that i have run "Sync Simulator" in Orbx Central which has written back the Orbx entries.

 

@Ernst,

perhaps you try also to run "Sync Simulator" in Orbx Central.
You will find the function under   Orbx Central \ Help \ Sync Simulator .
This will sort your scenery.cfg entries. An easy step and at least it doesn't harm.

 

Regards

Ulrich

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Hi Ulrich

 

Thank you for your suggestions!

I did exactly as you suggested, but no joy.

Activating Sync Simulator will produce an Error Message: "An error occurred while trying to synchronise your simulator"

 

This might well be the reason for my autogen problem, but how to solve this!!??

 

Ulrich, perhaps you know, most probably I need an Orbx expert.

Hope there is one looking into that.

 

Ernst

 

Btw:

I never get any notifications of replies in this forums, despite its activated and email address in account is correct

I also never get any notifcations on updates, despite its configured

But I get lots of News publications...

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Hello Ernst,
At the first time i got this message too,

but i made second attempt and then it had worked for me.

 

Ulrich

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On 7/1/2020 at 11:17 AM, updraft said:

Hello All

 

Thanks for all your contributions!

I have followed Carlos' suggestions (removed Kos, ran files verification for all Orbx sceneries involved, including PNW etc) but all without any effect regarding improved autogen.

Mainly missing are trees, buildings seem to be ok.

I  tested an number of Orbx sceneries and found, that the most severly hurt airfields seem to be within PNW.

E.g 11S Sekiu (important to me) is typical: the comlete area around the airport is toally bald, not a single tree.

Similar with 0S9 Jeffersen, Vashon island, Vernonia, CYSE Squamish, and other places in BC.

Europe and the parts northern of PNW seem to be unaffected.

I have searched in the AutogenConfigurationMerger folder. The latest entry in P3Dv4 of default.xml is of 03.04.2020 and contains a number of TE_US_xxxx entries.

But I am not having any TE scenery!

Well I am not expert at all with this AutogenConfigurationMerger, frankly I don't understand anything bout it.

 

But if the probable reason for my problem can be found there, I am willed to learn.

 

Orbx some time ago has started this new autogen merge. Isn't it possible to use their default.xml without any TE-entries?

 

2 or 3 days before the Orbx update I was at 11S Sekiu and all was fine, no new install after that.

 

Btw: Vector was upgraded yesterday, even I had set Central to not upgrade automatically !?

 

hope there is an easy and quick solution!

 

Thanks for all help

 

Ernst

 

 

Sorry for my late reply, somehow I miss it.

The autogen Configurator merger what does is exactly that, mergers third party autogen  and Orbx one, so both can coexist. When it is not installed and you have a third pty add-on it usually causes the missing of trees and buildings mainly in the PNW. There is something in the build of PNW that is the area that most suffers the conflict, Sekiu, JCon  etc

Hope the issue is solved soon by the experts though you are not the only one suffering this

 

Regards

Carlos

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Ernst

 

Based on this recommendation:

 

2 hours ago, Nick Cooper said:

Hello,

the most common cause of that problem is a fault in the scenery.cfg file.

You can try renaming yours, start P3D which will create a new one, close

P3D and try Sync Simulator again.

 

Be aware of:

 

01.-When the sim recreates the scenery back it will create a default one ( all your scenery will be gone)

02.- After you do so, you close the sim

03.- Then Open Central and it will write the scenery back ( Only all Orbx scenery)

04.- You would have to add your third party add-ons again (except the ones that are added by the xml method)

05.- Ensure your insertion points are correctly set up in Central ( Third party products go in the first tab)

 

I would recommend you the following:

 

Before anything else, uninstall the libraries and Object flow and reinstall.

Do not verify, uninstall and reintall

Open P3D

Your ACM should show activity

Then test

 

If that doesn't work then

 

01.- Remove any third pty addons from P3D & from your PC

02.- Delete all the scenery added by the xml method ( usually installs in documents folder,but some don't so be sure where they got installed)

03.- Delete the scenery file

04.-Run P3D to recreate it and close the sim

05.--Run central, wait a few seconds and then close

06.- Run P3D and let the scenery rebuild

07.- Test.

 

If all is ok start adding your third party add-ons one by one. You install one and immediately check Sekiu or Jefferson. This way you can detect which one is causing a problem to you

When you install your first third party add-on back ensure to put it in your insertion points in Central

 

Also remember that for things to take place in central you must close it ( ensure is not minimized only ad you can have it open along with the sim but it only takes effect when closed)

 

Hope this works for you and I hope you don't have too many 3rd pty stuff as I know the headache it is but if Nick's feeling is in the scenery file then is better to have a very clean one.

 

So ensure first all your Orbx stuff  is in shape without any third party installed this way you can confirm the issue is or not in Orbx.

 

Good luck

Regards,

 

Carlos

 

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Uuhhh, lot of work ahead!

Thanks for your replies and instructions!

 

But I think I have to follow Carlos' detailed describtion. Thanks a lot!

 

@Ulrich: I've tried several times

@Nick: re those faults in scenery.cfg:

    1. do they relate to Orbx entries only or possibly also to 3d party sceneries?

    2. What could possibly be wrong in scenery.cfg (I am using SimstarterNG for scenery.cfg organisiation)

 

This undertaking will take a couple of hours/days!

 

Ernst

 

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Hi Ernst

 

As you use SimstarterNG for scenery.cfg organisiation hold on from proceeding as I detailed as Nick might know a better/easier way to fix it now that you say you use a program for that

 

Cheers

 

Carlos

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3 hours ago, updraft said:

@Nick: re those faults in scenery.cfg:

    1. do they relate to Orbx entries only or possibly also to 3d party sceneries?

    2. What could possibly be wrong in scenery.cfg (I am using SimstarterNG for scenery.cfg organisiation)

 

This undertaking will take a couple of hours/days!

 

Ernst

 

 

Hello,

my answer is only to this:

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Activating Sync Simulator will produce an Error Message: "An error occurred while trying to synchronise your simulator"

 

and renaming the scenery.cfg file will take only a minute.

The idea is to take it out of the equation before moving on to a further investigation.

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Hi Nick

 

I did as you suggested and again I get this Error message with Sync Simulator.

Scenery.cfg contains 001-131 entries.

The 131 entry caused an error message in P3D when starting, since there is no such scenery (Local=Scenery\Cities\Sharurah). Deactivated.

 

There seems to be another cause than scenery.cfg fault for this message.

 

Ernst

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Thanks Nick!

I am running 4.1.14 of of june 26.

Where to find this Orbx central log file?

 

Ernst

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Hello Ernst,

Orbx Central - Settings - Help - Open Log

Orbx Central Help.jpg

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9 hours ago, updraft said:

Thanks Nick!

I am running 4.1.14 of of june 26.

Where to find this Orbx central log file?

 

Ernst

I  highly recommend to update to latest version 4.5 hf 3 (or v5 if you prefer)

Some products require updated versions

Cheers

Carlos

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Hi Nick

 

Attached is your requested central.log file

 

@smudger: thanks for showing me central.log access

@Carlos: I am running P3Dv4.5 HF3 actually (4.1.14 is Orbx Central version), but I don't intend to move fast ti v5, too many problems and too much I have to buy again

 

Best regards

Ernst

central.log

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Hello,

the only error message is this one:

 

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System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not find file 'C:\Users\Ernst\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Richer Simulations\add-on.ocbackup'.

 

Could you have deleted that file?

 

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Hi Nick

 

Yes, this scenery was deleted, but months ago and without consequences regarding autogen in PNW area.

I'll remove this entry there.

 

I didnt check this log file before, but now I found an entry "Skipping Orbx add-on E:\Orbx Lib\p3dv4\Global TerraFlora v2" .

today I played with the settings of TerraFlora v2 in the hope to fix my autogen problem (without success) and now I find this entry.

Any possible relation to my case?

 

Ernst

 

 

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Hi Nick

 

That did the trick!!!

Deactivating your above mentioned entry brought all the autogen back and 11S Sekiu is a joy again!

Thank you for your decisive tip!

 

Best wishes

Ernst

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Hello Ernst

 

Did you fix the autogen issue by removing Richer Simulations?

Which was the scenery? Caribsky Anigua?

I ask becuase if yes we need to consider this developer/scenery among the other that causes autogen problems

Regards,

 

Carlos

 

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Hi Carlos

 

It was the remains after uninstall of TVSA Argyle Saint Vincent with a still active add-on.xml

 

This scenery has an integrated AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe

I still don't quite understand the working of this merger; I understand the problem and the approach, but not the working itself.

 

Thanks again to you and to the other members for supporting my case!

 

Cheers

Ernst

 

Btw: Just some days ago we were discussing the beauty of your country, with friends who were travelling it some time ago by a rented car

 

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Hello Ernst

 

Ok thanks for the info that Richter Simulations brings its autogen and is added by the xml method

The autogen merger doesn't work when sceneries that bring its autogen are added by the xml method that is why it causes a problem

 

What the merger does is to allow Orbx autogen and any third party autogen not to conflict, to display correctly it does a merge but the third party product cannot be added by the xml method but manually for the ACM to detect the autogen

 

47 minutes ago, updraft said:

Btw: Just some days ago we were discussing the beauty of your country, with friends who were travelling it some time ago by a rented car

 

Oh that is so nice to know

I'm glad they liked the country, they'll be welcome back anytime, and you too whenever you are interested in visiting and after covid of course :)

 

Thanks a lot

 

Cheers

Carlos

 

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