Jester945271 91 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Hi All, I just wanted to let you all know that I am an idiot. Whats the reason you ask, well, I have a secret, I have been using P3D with TEGBS since release and I kid you not its been taking 30 mins to load a flight. Now for those who know me, you know I have a very powerful laptop, so I was thinking, is there a fault. What have I done to it etc. Well the answer is simple. I use Acronis True Image - AHA some can see where I am going now. With Acronis you get ADP and this is meant to stop ransomware. So when I started a flight my throughput from my 2TB SSD was 0MB, therefore loading all my terrain was taking 32 mins.. So I first added the D: to the exclusions and my time went from 32 mins to 9 mins and throughput of 3 to 4 MB/S and then when disabling time dropped to 5mins throughput of 9 to 11+MB/S So as you can now see I am an idiot - So dont be like me I am running EU_ENG/WLS/IR/NIR/TEGB All Orbx UK airfields MAIW (Airfields and Traffic) UT Live UK2000 (Southend/LCY/Jersey/Guernsey) 4 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffy Foster 339 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 My name is Buffy, and I was an IDIOT, too. For me it was Windows Defender that I had to put exclusions for. Since I did that, it's been real nice. :D 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triplane 601 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I am also an idiot. Acronis 2019 bit me in the ass too........................ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Cooper 7,042 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I see no idiots here. We cannot all know everything and every day there is something new to find out. Some time ago, my friend discovered Minitool Partition Wixard It is a superb piece of software, very intuitive to use and very effective. For home use, it is also free but if you feel that you need to pay for it, you can do that too. Both my friend and I, he being a much more avid creator of backups than me, have abandoned Acronis in favour of this. You might wish to take a look at it. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fltsimguy 330 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Speaking of idiots, it took me five minutes to figure out what "TEGBS" was! 3 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Venema 9,315 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I do not understand why people run so much software in the background when using flight simulation software. You don’t need any of that whilst flying in the sim so disable the lot of it. If you recall I showed everyone a video of my <2 minute loading time for TEGBS London about two months ago (even before P3Dv4.5 was released) and I don’t have a super computer, just all the bloatware turned off. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triplane 601 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 What do you consider "so much software"? Or "bloatware"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart Hobson 809 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Triplane said: What do you consider "so much software"? Or "bloatware"? The top two on my list are (1) any virus checker, and (2) any malware protector/checker. Unless you're surfing the web while you're simming, I see no point in running those things in the background, and I don't. I'm sure there are others... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triplane 601 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I agree Stew. And my sims are excluded from all that stuff. But, I don't consider those two items to be "so much software" or "bloatware". So the question still remains........Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Kane 446 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I no longer install Acronis on my P3D rig. I use it on all my other PC's The P3D rig can be backed up manually as nothing of real value is on there anyways, and it isn't used for internets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Venema 9,315 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Triplane said: What do you consider "so much software"? Or "bloatware"? Anything not used for running the flight simulation software. Their is no risk of infection or viruses when running the sim since it does not visit malware sites. Windows 10 itself comes pre-installed with a lot of bloatware not needed for flight simming. A quick google will point you in the right direction as to what you can remove. The key thing is: keep your FS machine as lean as possible and dedicated to simming only, as much as it is possible. I have my Mac for all my daily business tasks such as email, Office, graphic design, Discord, Skype, etc etc. My Windows 10 FS machine is reserved for simming only and has nothing else installed on it. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triplane 601 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Fair enough. I guess if I could afford the luxury of a second computer for flight-sim only that would be an answer. But, like most folks I suspect, I only have one and that will have to do. Over the years I've tried clean-boots, Black Vipers recommendations, and a host of other "lean-and-mean" stuff. None of that seemed to make a significant difference. Maybe my tired old computer just isn't up to the task...sigh. Thanks for the info and keep the new stuff coming. My credit card is always ready ..............Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnkH 247 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Hmm, interesting. I have both Acronis and activated Windows Defender and never had any issue with them. Neither Acronis nor Windows Defender have an exception for the P3D drive included, yet I do not have more than 3min loading time for TE Netherlands or any other drawbacks. BUT: I will certainly see if I can put those exceptions into Windows Defender and double check if anything from Acronis is running while I am simming, thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triplane 601 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The issue I had with Acronis 2019 is the new ransomware "feature" called Acronis Active Protection. With that running it was a slideshow. Once I figured out that I had to disable it while simming all was back to normal............Doug 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flyingleaf 9,980 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 My name is Karl and I'm an Idiot regardless (computer wise). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lawrence aldrich 502 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, flyingleaf said: My name is Karl and I'm an Idiot regardless (computer wise). Welcome to Symanonics anymouse….. Let there be no evil here, for we are now confessed and free of demons!! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ziggy 547 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Hi Paul, Welcome to the club!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzelle 332 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I discovered Windows10 was running a disk defrag as part of a startup service. Turning that, and indexing off, helped speed up things tremendously. Just tuppence worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoLonger 416 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) All those virus killers and defenders are indeed killing for (loading) performance. My example is nothing like the OP's example but going from desktop to Aerofly FS 2's menu used to take 9 seconds. After installing TrueEarth it took 26 seconds. (Again, nothing compared to the OP's 32 minutes but still almost three times as much). Turned out I forgot (after a recent W10 reinstall) to exclude ASF2 (and everything related) from Windows Defender. After excluding everything loading was back to 9 seconds instantly. Edited April 25, 2019 by J van E 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alcliff 29 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, J van E said: Turned out I forgot (after a recent W10 reinstall) to exclude ASF2 (and everything related) from Windows Defender. After excluding everything loading was back to 9 seconds instantly How? Is it just to go to the "Virus & Threat protecton" > "Exclusions" - "add or remove Exclusions" > Folder (ASF2 and everything related) ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoLonger 416 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Yep. For this purpose I excluded both AFS2 folders in the Steam folder and the AFS2 folder in Documents. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bassman 259 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Welcome to the idiot club Paul, there is a very large membership here 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antonvs 335 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Yes, agree here. We are in an ever increasingly popular club indeed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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