Rlbomber 4 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Installed KACK today on Prepar3d v4 and every time I load the airport, the plane automatically crashes. Doesn't matter if I choose a runway or a parking spot or gate, the plane crashes. I've tried other aircraft and the same thing happens. I go to another nearby airport no problems. Any suggestions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Cooper 7,070 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Hello, please try disabling crash detection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rlbomber 4 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 That's fine I disabled crash detection and it worked fine. I enable it and same thing happens, it immediately crashes. The plane is just sitting on the runway with nothing around it, out in the open and it crashes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Cooper 7,070 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Thanks. this is not uncommon, though I do not fully understand the fine points of crash boxes, I don't think that there are any advantages in having crash detection active, given the rather unrealistic consequences depicted in the simulators. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rlbomber 4 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 I can't be the only one having this issue with KACK add on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Cooper 7,070 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Of course you are not. You might wish to follow this topic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDF4 32 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I placed a copy of this message in the thread under P3D support, just repeating it here for visibility in FTX support proper: The IBlueyonder versions of these airports worked fine with crash detection turned on (FSX). Since I've switched over to the ORBX versions I get instant crashes when starting up at these airports. I'm NOT turning crash detection off. There's nothing wrong with crash detection. It only becomes and issue when scenery has a fault. This is a bug with the ORBX versions of the 2 products (minute Man/Plum Island and Nantucket). Again, these airports worked fine before I switched over to ORBX. Could you please get development to look into this and fix it as soon as possible. Thank you in advance, Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Womack 167 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think I know the problem and it's a pretty easy fix. We'll get it sorted in an update. In the meantime, just run it with crashing disabled and you should be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDF4 32 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Thank you for your time Bill. Lovely detailed work on these airports by the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Womack 167 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Thanks, David! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyer10 0 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I bought KACK and 2B2 for FSX and was curious to try it out today: I have the same crashes like others describe. When I load a plane or even Bob on a RWY, I can see it for a short wile, but with wheels below (sunken in) runway level. Shortly after this, crash message shows up. I have not tried yet to switch off crash detection. I prefer a real solution. What I can see the short moment before crashing looks great and I am really curious for the complete extent of these 3 airports Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Womack 167 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 hours ago, freeflyer10 said: I bought KACK and 2B2 for FSX and was curious to try it out today: I have the same crashes like others describe. When I load a plane or even Bob on a RWY, I can see it for a short wile, but with wheels below (sunken in) runway level. Shortly after this, crash message shows up. I have not tried yet to switch off crash detection. I prefer a real solution. What I can see the short moment before crashing looks great and I am really curious for the complete extent of these 3 airports If you disable crash detection, you can enjoy the scenery all you like. Until the fix is posted, that's a quick and easy fix. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyer10 0 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Hi Bill, thxs for your quick reply. I disabled crash detection on KACK and tried to fly with standard Baron. Unfortunately I cannot really enjoy the scenery as there is some mismatch with the ground levels, static aircraft and double but offset structures. When I tried to land on RWY 6 there was a big upgoing threshold in the ground level before runway. I had to "fly trough" to end up some how on the runway, sunken into concrete. I have attached some screen shots to show my findings. For me, the fix with disabling crash detection is not satisfactory. May be I made a mistake, but until now, I installed and flew all my ORBX and other add-ons with no such problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Womack 167 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 From your screenshots, it's clear that you've got another version of Nantucket showing in addition to Orbx KACK, either the default or the freeware Orbx version. You also don't appear to have the elevation adjustment file in your Scenery\World\Scenery folder - hence the ground level mismatch. I'd recommend you uninstall and reinstall KACK via FTX Central and see if it sorts things out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyer10 0 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I simply bought KACK (and 2B2/6B6) from ORBX and downloaded and installed from FTX Central 3. I cannot remember if I had another freeware version. Anyway I would appreciate very much some help : 1. If I uninstall KACK with FTX Central, how can I get rid of the other "shadow" version? 2. If I look into my Scenery\World\Scenery and sort by date I can see as the latest file "ADE_FTX_FTXG_67L_elevation_adjustment.BGL" dated 2017-11-29 10:58, 1 KB. What should I do there and where to get the missing file? 3. Do you need any other information to help me? Thank you very much in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somiller 0 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 This is not intended as a pile-on, only as another confirmation of the instant aircraft crash when loading into KACK, with crash detection enabled in P3Dv4.1 I just purchased KACK (also 2B2/6B6) in the recent ORBX sale. I see Bill W. indicated a fix is forthcoming. Kind Regards, Steven Miller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyer10 0 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 On 3.4.2018 at 5:51 PM, freeflyer10 said: I simply bought KACK (and 2B2/6B6) from ORBX and downloaded and installed from FTX Central 3. I cannot remember if I had another freeware version. Anyway I would appreciate very much some help : 1. If I uninstall KACK with FTX Central, how can I get rid of the other "shadow" version? 2. If I look into my Scenery\World\Scenery and sort by date I can see as the latest file "ADE_FTX_FTXG_67L_elevation_adjustment.BGL" dated 2017-11-29 10:58, 1 KB. What should I do there and where to get the missing file? 3. Do you need any other information to help me? Thank you very much in advance! I could solve my problem of duplicate structures, with height offset: I uninstalled FTX Global NA Airport Pack and everything was fine on the ground in KACK, no double structures, plane on the tarmac not below. Then installed FTX Global NA Airport Pack again and it still remained OK. I had never installed a freeware version before. Anyway, I am going to enjoy the nice airport and island. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joey D 0 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Hi Bill. Not to be a pain... I see above a fix is coming... but just want you to know I have the KACK crash issue in FSX. I've disabled crash detection and I am enjoying the view! Thanks... love all things orbx. Waiting for fix. Joe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDF4 32 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 "I think I know the problem and it's a pretty easy fix" Hi Bill, is a fix still planned for this crash issue? If so is there an ETA? If not I assume I can reinstall my original iblueyonder versions of Nantucket and Plum Island and just disable the Orbx ones? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Womack 167 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 The fix has already been tested. Just waiting for it to be added to FTX Central. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobC 64 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Sweet! Thanks for the update!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Womack 167 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Hopefully you saw it already, but the updates are available via FTX Central now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doc_Z 221 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 FTX Central just updated to version 3.3.0.4, but no update for KACK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Womack 167 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Really? I was told the update was available for customers 6 days ago. Can you check again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doc_Z 221 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Sorry, thought there was another update since that one. My bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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