Sascha Normann 173 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 We're currently finalizing our list of POIs (on other words: VFR models) for FTX Germany South. To make sure we are not missing anything essential here: Which POIs would you like to see in FTX Germany South? (coverage map attached) Conditions: Please understand that suggesting a POI here does not mean it gets included. However your suggestions will help us to get a balanced set of POIs. POIs suggested should be less than 100m/300ft in height (from ground). Why? Because we already have everything of 100+ meters listed. Please only suggest POIs that stand out when seen from the air. POIs that need to be there to make a place recognizable. Provide coordinates, please! You can add them to your post or (even better) attach a Google Earth KMZ file to your post. Deadline for your suggestions: Monday, 26th of September (which essentially leaves us the whole weekend) Thank you! GES.kmz 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wolter van der Spoel 312 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I may assume the whole list of castles is fair game Link to post Share on other sites
Airwolf 305 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 All the Porsche Factories and the new Nurburgring race track including the new track where all the car manufacturers can test. Fast cars moving on these race tracks will be awesome. Similar to this was done in W16 Airport Addon by you guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürburgring http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-get-access-to-germanys-nurburgring-2013-2 Doesn't JV have a Porsche - I am sure he would love to see all these awesome race tracks with cars in the sim. Throw in some Orbx Porsches parked near these tracks. Please model all the race tracks in Germany Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Not to miss: Castle Hohenzollern (Burg Hohenzollern) LAT: 48.323534° LON: 8.967451° Link to post Share on other sites
John Dow 1,307 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 The town of Nordlingen Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Harmes 1,888 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 How about the Hockenheimring in Hockenheim. A very famous race track. Hockenheimring_Hockenheim.kmz Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites
ramonb 61 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) The beautiful town of: Rothenburg ob der Tauber. St Jakobskirche (St. Jame's Church) From: Homepage der Evang-Luth. Kirchengemeinde St. Jakob. In my wish list: Erlangen (I lived there in the 80's) Regards Edited September 23, 2016 by ramonb Link to post Share on other sites
Turboarrow4 198 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Hi Sascha, Very nice, thank you. Some from Hessen.... Egelsbach EDFE und EDDF: Schloss Wolfsgarten (49.980284, 8.638831) Grube Messel (49.914876, 8.751710) Justizvollzug Weiterstadt (49.894194, 8.563771) (Waypoint J) Melibokus (49.724828, 8.636162) Burg Frankenstein (49.793188, 8.668650) Commerzbankarena (50.068648, 8.645027) Pferderennbahn (50.086302, 8.655059) OPEL Teststrecke (49.992689, 8.913271) Speyer EDRY: Technik Museum (49.311365, 8.447355) Speyer Dom (49.317203, 8.442300) (Must have, It is in Short final J) Sonstiges.. Römerkastell Saalburg (50.271740, 8.566763) Hessenpark (50.275622, 8.522428) Wetterstation Großer Feldberg (50.232245, 8.456966) Bad Homburger Brauhaus (Starting place of legenfary Graf Zeppelin) (50.213656, 8.611098) Mein Arbeitsplatz… der größte Parkplatz in Hessen J (50.556638, 8.787001) Dom Londorf (50.675007, 8.861910) Niederwalddenkmal (49.981082, 7.899791) Dom Fulda (50.554043, 9.671754) Kloster Eberbach (50.043775, 8.045535) Hoherodskopf (50.510866, 9.226581) Dom Limburg (50.388790, 8.067136) Cheers Thorsten Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Harmes 1,888 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Linderhof Palace Linderhof Palace.kmz Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites
forostar 11 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Garmisch and the German Alps Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Harmes 1,888 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Bertoldsheimer See and surrounds Bertoldsheimer See.kmz Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Harmes 1,888 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Heidelberg has some classic architecture Other areas that could be added, perhaps even as cityscapes in the future: Lake Constance Rothenburg ob der Tauber Fussen Munich Bamburg Wurzburg Garmisch-Partenkirchen Cheers, Edited September 23, 2016 by scottharmes6 Link to post Share on other sites
Stillwater 13,950 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 The tallest church in the world can´t be omitted...: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulm_Minster . It took only about 500 years to build it, I have hopes Orbx could be faster. Though Frankfurt can be very FPS-demanding (lots of AI traffic plus a huge airport), some details of the city would enhance the (usual) approaches from the east: Link to post Share on other sites
John Venema 9,315 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Doesn't JV have a Porsche - I am sure he would love to see all these awesome race tracks with cars in the sim. Please model all the race tracks in Germany I do indeed have a Porsche, but I will be at the Nurburgring in three weeks' time driving my BMW E46 M3 Orbx-sponsored race car (check my profile to see a photo of it).I very much would like to see the Nurburgring and Spa circuits modelled. Link to post Share on other sites
Stillwater 13,950 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, John Venema said: driving my BMW E46 M3 Orbx-sponsored race car I wonder how you managed to get sponsoring by Orbx... but maybe this is the starting point for lots of fantastic CarFlow attractions? Link to post Share on other sites
wolfko 1,058 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, Stillwater said: The tallest church in the world can´t be omitted...: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulm_Minster . It took only about 500 years to build it, I have hopes Orbx could be faster. To have the Ulm Minster displayed would really be great. I assume the developers have already considered to include it, because it is taller then 100 m (see Sascha's OP). Link to post Share on other sites
wolfko 1,058 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 14 minutes ago, John Venema said: I do indeed have a Porsche, but I will be at the Nurburgring in three weeks' time driving my BMW E46 M3 Orbx-sponsored race car (check my profile to see a photo of it). I very much would like to see the Nurburgring and Spa circuits modelled. Is this an indication that Orbx has something planned for Belgium? Link to post Share on other sites
Airwolf 305 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Venema said: I do indeed have a Porsche, but I will be at the Nurburgring in three weeks' time driving my BMW E46 M3 Orbx-sponsored race car (check my profile to see a photo of it). JV - Looking forward on seeing some videos/pics of the Orbx Race Car at Nurburgring. What race/event you are racing at? Having these racetracks modelled in FTX regions will be amazing to see (especially in VR - flying low and seeing tons of cars racing on it) Edited September 23, 2016 by Airwolf Link to post Share on other sites
Airwolf 305 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 1 hour ago, John Venema said: I very much would like to see the Nurburgring and Spa circuits modelled. Sascha, yep you gotta do these tracks as your own CEO wants to see it done Link to post Share on other sites
John Dow 1,307 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Further to Thorsten's post above: The Sinsheim Technik Museum south of Mannheim at 49°14'21.1"N 8°53'57.1"E has a Concorde and a TU-144 on the roof, as well as many other planes outside. http://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/ and the Speyer the Technik Museum has a 747 on poles as well as many other aircraft scattered around 49°18'44.1"N 8°26'44.5"E http://speyer.technik-museum.de/en/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dkeuser 0 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Some decent coverage of the Koblenz area would be wonderful as the Mosel and Rhine valley are very popular among VFR pilots, e.g. Deutsches Eck, Festung Ehrenbreitstein, maybe a good selection of the castles and churches along Rhine, Mosel amd Lahn valley like Marksburg, Burg Eltz, Cochem Reichsburg, Nassau castle, Limburg cathedral etc. Winningen airport near Koblenz ist quite scenic being located on top of steep vinyards - for VFR pilots it would be important to have the radio tower and the A61 brige across the Mosel valley modelled as these define the aerodrome traffic circuit. Maybe you can also add the geysir in Andernach. Around Koblenz.kmz Link to post Share on other sites
BrianV 481 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 6:22 PM, forostar said: Garmisch and the German Alps Would be nice for scenic flights from Garmisch (or Eschenlohe) via Mittenwald and Seefeld to the forthcoming Innsbruck by Jarrad . For those interested in WW2 history a rendition of Kehlsteinhaus near Berchtesgaden would also be good to see when flying out of Salzburg. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ActiveSky 5 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Hello everybody1. Mercedes-Benz Werk in Wörth " largest truck plant in the world" https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz-Werk_Wörth 49 ° 02'54.9 "N 8 ° 17'10.2" E2. Mercedes Benz Werk in Sindelfingen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz-Werk_Sindelfingen 48 ° 42'21.1 "N 8 ° 59'25.7" E Edited September 25, 2016 by Masek Link to post Share on other sites
TheGreenToad 40 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 What about the "Radioteleskop Effelsberg"? 50° 31′ 29″ N, 6° 53′ 2″ Ehttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioteleskop_Effelsberg 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ActiveSky 5 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Hello everybody -Schloss Lichtensteinhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Lichtenstein_(Württemberg)48 ° 24'22.9 "N 9 ° 15'30.0" E -Ulmer Münster https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulmer_Münster 48°23'54.7"N 9°59'32.6"E -Mainzer Dom https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainzer_Dom 49°59'56.1"N 8°16'25.9"E -Frankfurt (Main) Hauptbahnhof https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_(Main)_Hauptbahnhof 50°06'25.9"N 8°39'43.3"E -Dom zu Fulda https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuldaer_Dom 50°33'14.4"N 9°40'19.4"E -Schloss Nymphenburg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Nymphenburg 48°09'28.9"N 11°30'11.1"E -Deutsches Museum https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Museum 48°07'47.6"N 11°35'00.4"E -Schlossanlage Schleißheim https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlossanlage_Schleißheim 48°14'52.1"N 11°34'06.9"E -Deutsches Museum Flugwerft Schleißheim https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugwerft_Schleißheim 48°14'45.4"N 11°33'25.7"E -Audi AG Ingolstadt 48°47'09.0"N 11°24'59.9"E -Stankt Lorenz Kirche https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lorenz_(Nürnberg) 49°27'03.7"N 11°04'42.7"E Cheers Sebastian Link to post Share on other sites
Stillwater 13,950 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Maybe the suggestion is too easy... did you already make sure all the (air-visible) World heritage sites are covered? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_Germany Link to post Share on other sites
Nemex 30 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 The Town of Bamberg (UNESCO World Heritage Centre). http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/624 Link to post Share on other sites
ActiveSky 5 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Short question Would it be possible to incorporate the EDDF airport, the 3rd runway?Since I have only the standart Airports from FSX and at EDDF the third runway is not present. Cheers Sebastian Link to post Share on other sites
DeeJay 58 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Something from the southwest: - Ford Factory ( Fordwerke.kmz ) + the supplier park in Saarlouis and the nearby steel works ( Dillinger_Huette.kmz ) in the city of Dillingen. Very recognizable industrial park seen from the air. Should look similar to some places in the "Ruhrgebiet" included in Germany North: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wfus.de%2Fimages%2Fgemeinde%2FDillinger.Huette_700_aus_2011.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wfus.de%2Fcgi-bin%2Fgsearch.cgi%3Faction%3Dwsearch%26ort%3DDillingen&h=465&w=700&tbnid=Hf82EN9BXN-pcM%3A&docid=1P-CPLkJuctXAM&ei=yNPnV7PDBMmS6QS6j5fADA&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1871&page=0&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=0ahUKEwizx5660qrPAhVJSZoKHbrHBcgQMwg7KAgwCA&bih=963&biw=1920 I think the "Berghalden" which are so typical for any (historic) coal are should already be included as most of them are higher than 100m and should even be included in the mesh as "mountains". - 2 similar POIs: 1. The historical steel works in Völklingen ( Weltkulturerbe_Voelklingen.kmz ) which is now declared world cultural heritage and thus beautifully illuminated at night: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9zDEWtN8KmPQKs2rR6uNRsTjKgqatutr4vlMES2A2cg-VdfkJwm0veDtY8TeqVIhLVX013XZ=s660-fcrop64=1,0330025ee3affda0 2. Same thing in nearby city of Neunlirchen ( Alte_Huette_Neunkirchen.kmz ) - I don't know how far the coverage area expands to France, but for the case it's really covered, the "Hohe Koenigsburg.kmz" at the eastern edge of the French "Vosges" near the border to Germany (Oberrheingraben): Regards, Dominik Link to post Share on other sites
sim123 40 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 If they have to develop all these Poi's I expect Germany south will be not on the market before Christmas 2017. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AIRJUNEAU 69 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 My suggestions: Biedenkopf: - Schloss Biedenkopf - Castle (50.915210, 8.526831) - Windpark Schwarzenberg Biedenkopf - Wind Turbine Park (50.894124, 8.494473) currently under construction - Windpark Weißenberg Biedenkopf - Wind Turbine Park (50.872245, 8.508308) currently under construction - Sendeturm Sackpfeiffe Biedenkopf - Telecommunication Tower (50.951203, 8.532107) Bad Laasphe: - Schloss Wittgenstein Bad Laasphe - Castle (50.930574, 8.397072) Breidenstein: - Perfstausee Breidenstein - Reservoir (50.910080, 8.462322) Angelburg: - Fernsehturm Angelburg - Telecommunication Tower (50.788101, 8.428553) Marburg: - Landgrafenschloß Marburg - Castle (50.810094, 8.767006) - Elisabethkirche Marburg - Church (50.814812, 8.769918) - Spiegelslustturm Marburg - Watch Tower (50.814976, 8.789061) if you call a LED heart lights up - Philipps-Universität Marburg - Univerity (50.810719, 8.773735/50.808823, 8.779892/50.814749, 8.806770) - Heizkraftwerk Marburg - Power Plant (50.820304, 8.805484) Gießen: - Fußgängerüberführung Elefantenklo Gießen - famous Pedestrian Bridge (50.582006, 8.670046) - Fernmeldeturm Dünsberg - Telecommunication Tower (50.650831, 8.580284) General: - Hospitals with Heliports - Train Stations/Harbours - Power Plants - Wind Tubines - Astronomical Observatories - Listening Posts/Radome/Radar Stations - Ski-jumping Hills I have the hope that the Marburg-Biedenkopf and Gießen area gets special attention because Holger lived here Thank you. Cheers, Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
masterhawk 14 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) The Bussen, an important landmark https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussen drachenfels https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drachenfels_(Siebengebirge) burg teck https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Teck real night lightning of the Frankfurt skyline (its the only one in Germany, please make it like in real life) everything that is marked on the vfr maps/charts All Hospitals with helipads (please add them also to GEN north) all bases of rescue helicopters (please add them also to GEN north) The petrochemical complex south of cologne The buildings on top of the feldberg, Zugspitze, Brocken all big train and motorway bridges (there are a lot) "deutsches eck" in Koblenz with the monument https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Eck festung Ehrenbreitstein in koblenz https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festung_Ehrenbreitstein The airbase in Fürstenfeldbruck with all buildings. There are historic ones and a special one: the German air force academy. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugplatz_Fürstenfeldbruck https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offizierschule_der_Luftwaffe the university of the German armed forces in neubiberg https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universität_der_Bundeswehr_München German monuments and memorials (the big ones) in the following link are also really small ones, so it has to be sorted out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monuments_and_memorials_in_Germany echelon station in bad aibling https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Aibling_Station Edited September 25, 2016 by masterhawk Link to post Share on other sites
KVSandleben 166 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Masek said: Short question Would it be possible to incorporate the EDDF airport, the 3rd runway?Since I have only the standart Airports from FSX and at EDDF the third runway is not present. Cheers Sebastian As full fat regions always include all Airports according to their current layouts, you can be sure that EDDF will have all the runways it currently has. Link to post Share on other sites
masterhawk 14 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) BMW factories in Munich airport of oberpfaffenhofen (there has been the Dornier aircraft factory) airfield of manching (there is the eurofighter factory) the city of Würzburg has a lot historic buildings, castles, bridges. It's really beautiful. Edited September 25, 2016 by masterhawk Link to post Share on other sites
masterhawk 14 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 The historic buildings of Dresden Festung Königstein Link to post Share on other sites
Sascha Normann 173 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Thank you all! I have listed everything up to here - decision on what actually gets included will be made in the process. Keep your ideas coming. Deadline is tonight 2am (German time). Bests, Sascha 1 Link to post Share on other sites
masterhawk 14 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) The new castle in stuttgart https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neues_Schloss_(Stuttgart) castle nymphenburg in Munich https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Nymphenburg Castle Karlsruhe in Karlsruhe https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Karlsruhe Castle Moritzburg https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Moritzburg_(Sachsen) Festung Königstein https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festung_Königstein porta nigra in Trier https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porta_Nigra the Dom of Trier https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trierer_Dom Freiburg Münster https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiburger_Münster Buildings of dresden: semperoper zwinger residenzschloss frauenkirche lipsiusbau albertinum kathedrale Sanctissimae Trinitatis and a lot more of historic buildings. Dresden is also called "elbflorenz" Edited September 26, 2016 by masterhawk Link to post Share on other sites
masterhawk 14 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) The Rathaus in Augsburg https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathaus_(Augsburg) rathaus in munich https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neues_Rathaus_(München) frauenkirche in munich https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenkirche_(München) Dom in Regensburg https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regensburger_Dom castle Neuschwanstein https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Neuschwanstein völkerschlachtdenkmal https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Völkerschlachtdenkmal the "Nördlinger Ries" is a landmark. It is a old meteor crater https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nördlinger_Ries Church Frauenkirche Nürnberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenkirche_(Nürnberg) Church St. Sebald Nürnberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Sebald_(Nürnberg) Church St Lorenz Nürnberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lorenz_(Nürnberg) Opernhaus Nürnberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatstheater_Nürnberg Kaiserburg Nürnberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürnberger_Burg Dokumentationszentrum Reichsparteitagsgelände Nürnberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokumentationszentrum_Reichsparteitagsgelände Bonner Münster https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonner_Münster Edited September 26, 2016 by masterhawk Link to post Share on other sites
Olli272 0 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Being based in EDDK, I'd love to see a nice cityscape of Cologne. Also, the BAYER factory in Leverkusen (now called "Chempark") with its famous "BAYER cross", a landmark on approach to EDDK 14L, especially during the night... https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer-Kreuz; Position 51.022259N 6.988429E Best regards Olli Link to post Share on other sites
masterhawk 14 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) and my last ones: Radioteleskop Effelsberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioteleskop_Effelsberg Weltraumbeobachtungsradar TIRA https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radom_Wachtberg Erdfunkstelle Fuchsstadt https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdfunkstelle_Fuchsstadt Erdfunkstelle Raisting https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdfunkstelle_Raisting Erdfunkstelle Usingen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdfunkstelle_Usingen Audi factory in Ingolstadt Mercedes factory around Stuttart the exhibition halls in: Munich Stuttgart Frankfurt Cologne Edited September 26, 2016 by masterhawk Link to post Share on other sites
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