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I get anywhere from 4 to almost a dozen telemarketer calls a day.  I am on the 'no call' list but that's useless with the robodialers these weasels use.  They want to help me pay off my student loans (what student loans?).   They want me to refinance my home.  They want me to borrow money from them to pay off credit card debt of which I have very little.  Some want me to take a survey for something or other.  Or sell me aftermarket automobile warrantees.  Others have brides for me from Russia or the Philippines or Bumfuk Egypt, although those are quite rare.

 

I am now leaving my phone turned off all the time.  I have changed my answering message to, "My cell phone is turned off due to al the weasel telemarketer calls.  I turn it on and check for messages three times a day.  If I know you I will call you back.  If not you will get flushed into the virtual septic tank."

 

The only other time I leave it on is when Betty is out shopping.

 

Noel

 

It seems there's nothing I can do but keep my phone turned off most of the time. 

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Ditto on the junk telemarketing calls, and one can't forget the similar emails. If I don't recognize the caller number as part of my personal contact list, it does not get answered. If by chance a message was left on the answering machine I'll occasionally listen to it. It's surprising the amount of rubbish some of these clowns leave in their effort to get into your wallet. As for suspicious emails, I right click on those puppies and try too decipher where the email came from. If I don't like what I see, to the junk pile it goes.

 

The whole issue is a real pain in the backside but, ya have to be proactive to protect yourself from these weasles.   

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What's so frustrating on these calls is even when there is a real person on the phone they don't even listen to you.  When I answer the phone you can hear a faint tonal sound when the robodialer signals them there is fresh blood on the line.  I answer with "County removal service what is the location of the body to be removed."  Doesn't even phase them they just start reading their script!!!!

 

 

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E-Mails from people I don't know automatically get trashed without opening.

 

And then there's snail-mail advertising.  My mail box is at the curb in front of my house.  I once asked the postman if I put a garbage can next to the mail box if he would just toss my junk mail into it and save me the trouble.  He said he can't legally do that.  I would say 30-40% of our trash is unopened junk mail.

 

Noel

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Just yesterday I read something about a blocker called NoMoRobo. Not sure if it's a service (as from your Telco provider) or a device. Might be worth checking out. I had 2 or 3 calls today myself.

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Same here, mostly for energy or ADSL providers. Sometimes when i feel i am nasty i apply to them the reverse marketing tecnique (generally in the courses they teach you how to face people oppositions to what you are selling, i like to create oppositions difficult to be faced to the caller eh eh eh) and many times, when i like the voice by the other side, i tell them what to say and what not to say while they are selling, and generally at the end they salute me happily then because they learnt something. There is also a special book where you can be registered and people who want to sell by phone should respect that register and can't call you if you are in the list, it's at national level. Theorically, because i know registered people but that receive the same the calls. I am agreed that it's a really aggressive invasion by these callers.

 

 

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My favourite ones are from my bank which goes something like this:

Me: "Hello"

Bank: "Hello, can I speak to Mr T?"

Me: "Yes, speaking..."

Bank: "This is Nigel from your bank, in order to proceed with the call, I need you to answer some security questions."

Me: *silence*

Bank "Is that ok?"

Me: "No."

Bank: "Then I can't speak with you."

Me: *sigh* "I guess this conversation is over then, goodbye."

Bank: "Why won't you answer the questions?"

 

Cue rant on two way authentication from me and telling Nigel to get his act together before calling me back again.

 

Nigel doesn't understand how this fails to protect customers.

 

Dont be like Nigel.

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Another good telecaller response I heard about last night.

 

"Have you bee saved brother (or sister as the case may be)?  Let us kneel and pray together for the salvation of your eternal soul."

 

Noel

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A regular phone is a land line, Noel. I was a phone tech for 40+ years. The VOIP that Triplane refers to is Internet phone service and no, it won't do that. If you're thinking cordless phone it doesn't matter, it's still a land line. The unit blocks the calls at the base, where the phone line comes into the house. So, yeah, that's what this is designed for...regular landline service. It looks pretty straightforward. You can pre-load friends and family onto a "white list" and their calls will go straight thru. If you miss somebody they, and telemarketers, get a pre-recorded message and they have to dial "0" to get through. Then you can add that # to the "white list" with a push of a button and from then on their calls will go straight thru also. Or, if a telemarketer actually dials "0" and gets through you add the # to the "black list" with the push of a button and you'll never hear from them again. Most of the time you don't have to do anything. It identifies robocallers and "blacklists" them for you.

 

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Had one problem recently though... There were a couple of robotic automated calls of the "This ... is ... your ... credit ... card ... card ... company ... Mr <pause> Williams.... " that I put the phone down on thinking, "ruddy scammers!"

 

Trouble was, it actually was them and it wasn't until I got a snail mail letter that I found out my card had been cloned and stopped (by coincidence, I'd been using another card - I like to spread my favours around). They seemed surprised when I told them they should use human beings if they didn't want people to think they were just another nuisance call.

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6 hours ago, jsapair said:

A regular phone is a land line, Noel. I was a phone tech for 40+ years. The VOIP that Triplane refers to is Internet phone service and no, it won't do that. If you're thinking cordless phone it doesn't matter, it's still a land line. The unit blocks the calls at the base, where the phone line comes into the house. So, yeah, that's what this is designed for...regular landline service. It looks pretty straightforward. You can pre-load friends and family onto a "white list" and their calls will go straight thru. If you miss somebody they, and telemarketers, get a pre-recorded message and they have to dial "0" to get through. Then you can add that # to the "white list" with a push of a button and from then on their calls will go straight thru also. Or, if a telemarketer actually dials "0" and gets through you add the # to the "black list" with the push of a button and you'll never hear from them again. Most of the time you don't have to do anything. It identifies robocallers and "blacklists" them for you.

 

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Does it work with a fiber home line also? I have cordless but not VOIP, they work in the same way of a old DSL line on the phone cable. I have already a separated call identifier but it works only to see the caller and memorizes all the incoming numbers, so that you can eventually recall the number from it.

 

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Gotcha, Noel. Just the opposite up here in the foothills. Cell service is spotty unless you have a tower real close by. The law enforcement agencies even have problems with their radio coverage.

 

Maurizio, I would assume it would work. I have DSL service that comes from a fiber-fed hub located about 1/4 mile away and then POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) copper cable to my house. Some communities have fiber distribution points a lot closer to the houses (like housing tracts or apartments) and feed coaxial from there to the home. Either way, it breaks down from fiber to copper at some point so, yeah, I would think you'd be good to go. It would work in conjunction with your Caller ID service as the device only displays #'s, not names. I'm just getting all this from the product info page I linked to so you might want to read that. This is not an endorsement by any means. Buyer beware as they say.

 

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On the other end of that sales call is some poor shlub trying to make a living. I try to remember that before I respond. Then I courteously tell them I'm discontinuing the call and hang up. Doesn't stop the calls but it makes me feel nicely self-righteous and superior.

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Here in the UK you're advised to register with a service called 'TPS' (Telephone Preference Service) - it's a free, official, opt-out register.  It's garbage.  Answer ? BT8500 handset.  Had it for over a year now and not had one duff call slip through.  It really does do what it says on the tin ;)

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1401522/bt-bt8500-review-the-best-call-blocker-phone-yet

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A favorite of mine is from an off shore telemarketer advertising a Duct Cleaning Service. I always respond that I don't have any ducks but do they do geese? Pregnant pause on the other end! I try not to be nasty to the caller as they are only trying to make a living.

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By the third or fourth call of the day it's hard to be nice Rodger.  They are invading our privacy.  They are interrupting whatever we happen to be doing; reading a book, eating breakfast, flying your simulator, cleaning up the kitchen, watching television, whatever.  I don't have to be nice to them to feel self-righteous and superior.

 

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Noel, I saw this and had to laugh, I get this all the time on my land line which is why I keep it unpluged unless I need to fax something.

 

I get these on my iPhone but I'm glad it has call blocking.

 

Sometimes I like to have fun with them and keep them on the phone for as long as possible.  For example I get a lof of Viagra calls, I have never used it in my life but I get them all the time.  They're always from some foreign country, thick accents.  They ask me if I want to buy drugs, I say, YEAH, you got any heroin, sorry no understand, you got any meth?  No understand.  Okay I'll take the Viagara, how much?  $100, and they want a credit card, I give them a bogus number, it no work, so they actually ask me to ask all my family members for their numbers so I give them ten more bogus numbers.

By now they're getting desperate for a sale so I tell them I can send a check if they give me an address.  No can do, ok, how about I'll pay you $1000! if I can send a check?  Nope, ok, I'll pay you $10,000 for the Viagra if you give me a mailing address.

This goes on for at least half an hour while my wife laughs her butt off.  I finally tell him this is a scam and they admit it and hang up.

 

 

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I'd be embarrassed to say what I've told some of these people and I mean screaming obscenities. The National Do-Not-Call list is worthless. It's like a locked door keeping out the honest crooks. Are they just doing their job? Sure. But hey, they called me. They are invading my privacy. If you don't like what you hear when you call me 16 times a day until I finally answer, all pissed off, then get another job. I've got no sympathy...none...we are the victims here. AAARGH! Now I'm fired up and HOPING one calls.

 

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I respect people working in call centers, but generally they are in a very bad working conditions, companies use to establish these call centers abroad because they have better conditions, it's an exploitation. They call in Italy and the major part of the interlocutors are foreign, this gives me also a bit of tenderness, under certain limits, and i understand it's difficult. Anyway, even you tell them gently that you are not interested, some days after you receive the same call. This is not acceptable because with all the understanding, it's annoying. Sometimes you reply and they don't speak because they are speaking with another, it seems the dialer calls several numbers at the same time, and this several times a day.

Thank you Js for the infos, i think i will give a go to that device :)

 

 

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I'm not a big commenter on forums, but thank you for saying that Maurizio.  I worked in a call center for 12 months selling balance transfers for a credit card company.  I had a college degree from a good school and, at the time, that was the best job I could get (along with several of my classmates).  The pay was bad, the hours were bad, the morale was bad, and it was actually a good company (can't imagine working for an awful one).  It was the worst job I ever had, but I did it because I needed to pay my way and it got me my next job that was much better.  That said, I don't like telemarketers either, but please don't yell or disrespect them.  They're people who are doing an awful job they don't want to do for very little money.  I have experiences with people I called over 15 years ago that I still remember in detail because of how rude and vicious they were to me.  If you don't want to talk to them, just hang up.  It's better for everyone.

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Hey mglan80, thanks for sharing your experience. Nice reminder to aim high even when pissed off. I'd hate to be someone's bad memory for the rest of their life (fellow Forum Folk--the previous comment is not an open invitation for the obvious :P).

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Here in Sweden the no call list seems to work. I only get a few calls per year. In those cases, I manually put the number into the blacklist on my phone.

Telemarketing is the worst. You don't want to talk to them, they don't want to talk to you, but here you are, talking to each other.

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