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FTX NA Southern California - Airports close look pt 2 - P3Dv3

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Continuing on at my close look at the remodelled airports in SCA, this second edition were requested from forum members from my 1st series of airports. 

 

 

KAVP Apple Valley Airport - CA

 

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KIZA Santa Ynez - CA

 

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KSNA John Wayne Orange Co - CA

 

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KSZP Santa Paula - CA

 

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Nice images John.  Apple Valley is an intriguing name for a place apparently so bereft of apples.  Also nice to see a seasonal Christmas Tree packing thingy at Santa Ynez (apparently also doubles as a hose tidy).

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Great to see the KAPV shots. Great renderings. That's where I earned my SEL pilots license in the very early 70's while stationed at George AFB. Currently, in FSX, Apple Valley Airport sits in a substantial depression. No amount of effort to raise it up e.g. multiple airport elevation utility runs, and anything else I could think of too make it display correctly etc., etc., has fixed the issue. Hopefully, the FTX NA Southern California package will fix it once and for all.

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Looking really good and I hope we will see some nice airports in SCA shortly afterwards that can enhance this region even further. I am ready to explore :)

 

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12 hours ago, CRSJr said:

Great to see the KAPV shots. Great renderings. That's where I earned my SEL pilots license in the very early 70's while stationed at George AFB. Currently, in FSX, Apple Valley Airport sits in a substantial depression. No amount of effort to raise it up e.g. multiple airport elevation utility runs, and anything else I could think of too make it display correctly etc., etc., has fixed the issue. Hopefully, the FTX NA Southern California package will fix it once and for all.

I just checked KAPV Maple Valley in SCA.   Looks great in both FSX and P3D.  No depressions, airport nicely done up.

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I noticed that KSNA still has the 19/1 Runways, which got changed to 20/2 in real life. Will this change be included in the SCA package, or do we need an up to date addon scenery for KSNA to reflect this?

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As GREAT as this scenery is, I also noticed that there are business buildings missing around KSNA.  I have the same question, "do we need to update to Latin VEFR KSNA to reflect this?  I have LVFR KSNA, and its really good. 

 

Matthew

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Wow !  Santa Paula looks great, I'll be using Latin VFR for KSNA tho, should work Ok, have not had problems before wth other scenery working within FTX.

Is Santa Barbara KSBA included ?

 

Ooops sorry about the signature, need to change it.

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John, thanks for posting those KAPV shots for me that I requested in your last thread. They look great. The only thing wrong is that they have palm trees which we didn't have growing there like Palm Springs does.  That part of the desert is filled with Joshua trees, but adding that type of vegetation would probably be out of the scope of what ORBX would be able to do.

 

Thanks again  for the previews.

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On Monday, December 07, 2015 at 10:56 AM, CRSJr said:

Great to see the KAPV shots. Great renderings. That's where I earned my SEL pilots license in the very early 70's while stationed at George AFB. Currently, in FSX, Apple Valley Airport sits in a substantial depression. No amount of effort to raise it up e.g. multiple airport elevation utility runs, and anything else I could think of too make it display correctly etc., etc., has fixed the issue. Hopefully, the FTX NA Southern California package will fix it once and for all.

 

Small world, me to but in the late 80's. I don't know if Mid-Field aviation was there then but that's who I used for rentals and instruction. 

 

I was also in the Civil Air Patrol in high school and my CAP squadron was based at George AFB in a building near one that said Phantom Academics. Used to be a joy watching all the Wild Weasel  F-4's flying around all day and was sad to see the base close and turned into a bone yard of unused airliners.

 

One of my flight instructors was actually renting a room from  one of the F-4 pilots and his wife and with his help he got me 2 hours of sim time in the F-4 simulator at George. It was pretty cool.

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Love that you guys are doing SoCal finally, but I got to say....those Ventura County mountains are way too tan.  I know we are in a drought and all, but there needs to be a little more geen in the coastal mountains.  The mountains near Santa Paula shouldn't look like the mountains of the High Desert.

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Might be a seasonal setting in the simulator.  Those same mountains could be greener if the season setting was say Summer instead of Fall or Winter.  There are limitations to the combinations of Landclass and Texture files for the different seasons in the desert southwest.  That has always shown up in U.S. desert southwest sceneries since FSX came out.  That's why I usually used photoscenery for my desert southwest flying out here.  But the NA SCA is still looking really good to me right now.

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For the sake of accuracy, when your flying in coastal socal everything is not tan ground with green trees.  There's a lot of natural brush and grasses that remain green even though they are dry from drought.  I don't want to fly over Malibu and have it look like Greece.

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On 12/10/2015 at 10:22 AM, Skoop said:

Love that you guys are doing SoCal finally, but I got to say....those Ventura County mountains are way too tan.  I know we are in a drought and all, but there needs to be a little more geen in the coastal mountains.  The mountains near Santa Paula shouldn't look like the mountains of the High Desert.

 

And the deserts are not red enough. Apple Valley airport in Google Maps is a very reddish brown, but in this they look like they're located in the sahara.

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13 hours ago, B77X said:

 

And the deserts are not red enough. Apple Valley airport in Google Maps is a very reddish brown, but in this they look like they're located in the sahara.

Having flown over that area quite a bit in real life, and I don't find the colors in these shots horribly far off. Google Earth images vary greatly in how they render colors. I'm assuming that may be due to when they are captured, including the time of day and season (and then there's the difference in monitor settings). I'll be curious to see what's actually on my system when SCA arrives. Looking forward to it.

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^ I see it every day, and we don't have tan desert looking ground with green trees in Ventura county or any of the coastal zones of Socal.  When I mean coastal zone, that includes 30 to 50 miles inland.  Tan ground with green foliage is what I would associate with Greece not Socal.  I'm suggesting they green up the base ground color so it looks more plausible as Socal, mix a bit more green or olive into that tan.

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Hi guys,

 

the general lack of color saturation in John's screenshot is specific to his P3D settings; see http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/105890-ftx-na-sca-southern-california-around-los-angeles-and-las-vegas-p3dv3/?do=findComment&comment=954780

 

Also, compare to the SCA preview series from Iain, Mark, and Rob: plenty of greens and reds where required.

 

Cheers, Holger

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I'm very much looking forward to this release.   I earned my private license out at William J Fox (KWJF) up in the high desert of Antelope Valley.  I flew to John Wayne, Apple Valley, Palm Springs, Lake Isabella, Santa Maria, Santa Barbara, and on and on.  This release will feel very much like home for me.

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12 hours ago, mtbparker said:

  I earned my private license out at William J Fox (KWJF) up in the high desert of Antelope Valley. 

I flew into Fox frequently when I flew out of Burbank (KBUR) and Van Nuys (KVNY). I am hoping that SoCal represents both Fox and my favorite (!) $100 burger stop, Agua Dulce. I think my fun jaunts to Agua Dulce are the best memories of that time of my life, way back in the mid to late 1980s. Keeping things on topic here, I am really looking forward to the SoCal release!

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wonder if the tanker base is still at Fox field..  Will we see So Cal in our christmas stockings?

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Aqua Dulce was my diversion airport during my private check ride.  We started out on my planned X-Country with the FAA examiner.  He told me I needed to divert.  Aqua Dulce was the nearest airport.  Of course, because it was my check ride, we never landed, just moved on to the next phase of the exam.  My favorite destination, where I took all my friends and guests, was Lake Isabella.  It made for an absolutely beautiful morning flight and they had a greasy spoon there that served the best blueberry pancakes.

 

 

Sorry folks.  Just started daydreaming for a moment there.  Once again, looking forward to this release.  :)

 

 

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On 12/13/2015 at 3:49 PM, Holger Sandmann said:

Hi guys,

 

the general lack of color saturation in John's screenshot is specific to his P3D settings; see http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/105890-ftx-na-sca-southern-california-around-los-angeles-and-las-vegas-p3dv3/?do=findComment&comment=954780

 

Also, compare to the SCA preview series from Iain, Mark, and Rob: plenty of greens and reds where required.

 

Cheers, Holger

 

Can you link to a preview topic that displays the right colour? I'm not finding it.

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