John Heaton

Oh !!! - I love the sound of that last bit - and here's me - thinking it was already an "OK" add on. Can I be rude JV - ?? - and request a discount for TE XP owners of Central and North - as a Chrissy pressie Now that would give me a good reason to hang on to PD3 - in addition to AV2 - and still use my good expensive aircraft bought 5 months ago - and the new 2TB drive - that I bought - after you said that that is adequate to handle all the Orbx stuff that I own

Pick up some Fisherman's Friends" whilst you are there Every time I open a packet - I can smell the Fish from the docks

https://www.aurora.nats.co.uk/htmlAIP/Publications/2019-10-10-AIRAC/html/index-en-GB.html A few days ago - some of us found that our usual NATS info was of the air - and looks as if it still is. Today I came across this NATS page which you might find useful for navaids

I think NC is being very nice - since this question keeps popping up and the answer is probably the same We have been told repeatedly that TE Central and North will be ASAP - since work only started to port the XP version across to PD3 - using newly employed staff - in early September - and it MAY be out by the end of the year Personally - in view of the quality of the PD3 TE South - I too was impatient for the rest - so I took the plunge to install XP 11 and the full TE Britain Package at a belting to my Internet use. It took a while to sort it out - but I've found that it does not appear to be as good as my PD3 TE South version - compared with smaller settings than I used on PD3 - and maxed out in XP 11 That does not go to say that the XP version is NOT as good - that's just my take - and my mid range computer's "View" Maybe when all the work is completed - we might get an upgrade to the XP11. This is an untouched view of the XP11 version TE Central of me flying over my sister's in Morcambe - Lancashire - with my I5 9600 - 3.9 - 1050TI with the best setting I can get Look closely and you can see Blackpool Tower way to the South - around 35 miles away

Shades of the past??? Is that a Lockheed Tristar - or a DC 10 in the top right corner of the 4th photo???

Will it work in TE Britain package ?? - that's all I need in XP at the moment ! - because that's the reason I got XP11.

I don't think that the problem is solely related to Data loading times - but also the quality of what you get when finally loaded - in either PD3 ( 7 mins) - or XP 11(4 mins) I recently switched to XP11 from PD3 - mainly to get Britain TE Package on special @ Orbx. Since the I have struggled to get even the same quality as I got on TE Souths slideshow on PD3 Ok - maybe I don't have the super computer that some of you have - but my spec is as close as dammit to the recommended as preferable by XP11 --- I5 - 9600 - 3.90 (u/c) - latest 1050TI - 16 DDR4 - 2 TB HDD 7200.rpm Is the problem that Orbx considered the mid range computers - that were top stuff 2/3 years ago - when they set out the development process - or were they planning for the future market - that now occurs. Sometimes it seems even the best of what some of you have isn't good enough - ie TE south London area problems that filled this forum 2 months ago. I want to spend time flying - not tweaking to get - what I thought I should be getting - and "comments" by J.V. - whose computer also - isn't the bee's knees! - seems to expect some tweaking to get even close to what the software can give without spending $5000 to get the spec that seems to be required to keep the sliders/Data at the right end of the graph - and give quick loading - and flicker free flying. Makes one think more of what might be on the horizon from developers . P.S - XP 11 loads to splash screen in 1 min - and to fully load my "mid way sliders" - Britain TE +Piper Arrow A/c - at the above comp spec - in 4 mins tops

For months - I have had to use a joystick (T.master Hotas) with PD3 because it just refuses to let me use Saitek Yoke with Control levers for Throttle Prop and Mixture. Each time I try to set up the system - PD3 insists that the axis Z is for the throttle and I cannot use my Pedals (Tmaster) I find it ridiculous that I have to use a Joystick in a GA simulator - and not a Yoke - even for a heavy jet eg 747 I recently decided to move over to XP 11 - because it immediately recognises both Yoke and pedal set up - but feel frustrated because I have so much Orbx for the PD3 Any helpful suggestions??

I use Nats - but as we have found the airport details are off the air Meanwhile - here's a world situation which might be of some use https://x-plane.cleverest.eu/ You can always zoom in - it's quite a clear satellite

Don the ditch bit was supposed to be a little joke - but it went thro' to the wicket keeper. As stratocruiser just said - they brought out a hot spot to install/add to .5 - to get rid of the 6% problem - around 3 months ago. and a new hotspot last week - for what reason I don't know - I left it alone whilst I play with XPLANE11

he's running a reasonable comp- but with PD3RD The long time @ 6% - would indicate that if he was from across the ditch and forgot to update to hot spot 1 which was supposed to defeat his problem Nowt to do with AV2 mate - its pd3r - but I have to admit with a computer - almost identical - it doesn't take me that long even in TE Britain South "Did the dishes" - indeed - what is the world coming top?? But then again - maybe that's one of the reasons I have added X Plane 11 to my library- 30 secs splash screen - full load to runway threshold - 3 mins including Full Britain TE scenery.

I'm no expert in these matters - but you have an almost identical system to me - and 3 months ago I moved from Steam FX - to PR3d. I just installed PDR3 as instructed - and then asked Central 3 - as it was then - and since you own whatever Orbx product you have - Central will install it for you. I bought a few new a/c - because your not all SFX A/Cs work on PRD3 - I don't think ?? - and even with the powerful Britain TE South - PRD3 perform well enough. PRd3 actually improved some of my Orbx products - esp my own home town Gold Coast and the airport. I have taken a lot of long distance flights around Queensland in the sim and covered Victoria around Philip Island and the Great road to Apollo Bay inland - back to Moorabbin (the Orbx Moorabbin is brilliant) - all in Aus V2 I have just actually decided to give Xplane a go - which you will find as I did that the highest spec they recommend is the same as yours - the 1050ti being better than than the 1070. I also bought the whole TE Britain package - ( on ORBx special and Xplane from steam $A79) - and used the new Central and it loaded the full 350gigs without any probs. The reason I gave Xplane a go was - I was getting fed up of waiting - first of all - for PD3 to load to the splash screen - then seemingly forever for the whole thing to load to flight. Xplane loaded first time in 30 secs - and full load to runway position in less than 3 mins. I bought the original Cherokee 140 and the Arrow 111 that I trained on at Moorabbin in the 70s I will be keeping the PD3 so that I will still be able to use all the Orbx stuff and a/cs - that I already bought and won't work on Xplane - especially my Australia V2 and all my airports etc I see that you only mention 1 DD - an SSD no size - You don't mention any other - so a word of caution - these 2 sims + most of the normal load of Orbx as recommended - chews up Hard disc space - so keep an eye on this aspect - no matter which sim you use. I have 3 - 500 gbs HDDs and they are full - so I am in the process of redoing every thing on a new set of 3 - 2 TB HDDs - ( I can't afford SSDs) - eg The Xplane exercise took up 460gigs of an empty 500 HDD - so no room for anything else. Any thing else - please ask

Looks like someone started a new thread after the latest vid was commented on in the old thread and one comment was no Bridge or opera house on the Sydney bit. I made a comment thus:- Members 31 94 posts Location: Gold Coast - Queensland - Australia Report post #104 Posted 3 hours ago "Personally - the commentary on this video only seems to prove that no matter what computer you have - or internet connection we will be offered a choice of sim that appears to be way ahead of all others After the last videos were shown - Gobsmacked was a common expression - what are we going to say about this?. Of course things are missing - they are POIs and take time to integrate and Yes Sydney is devoid of the bridge and Opera House but Brisbane is brilliant - even without the Story bridge - but the Gabba is there!! What will the rest of Australia look like - even the Melbournians will probably - want to see what MS2020 will give them - and as I said personally - I don't need to wait for The Gold Coast - I have the Orbx to keep me happy - I only wish it was for X plane " As to bandwidth - so far we have been streaming and watching these videos without too many problems - at least I haven't @ 50Mps - and this bloke seems to say that the sim will adjust itself to what bandwidth you are getting - and what your comp is capable of anyway. I have also said elsewhere in these discussions - that in Australia - Foxtel - are already streaming 4K HDR to my TV - albeit via Their/My satellite dish - and they are on record as saying they will be providing the same Bandwidth - by the same method - to households - with the dish - in 2021 - having proven that - it will stream 4K HDR - we will have no worries ---- (The dish costs nothing!!)+( and current Australian Max bandwidths of 100Mps cant get near 4K TV streaming) So Australia - get "dished"

Personally - the commentary on this video only seems to prove that no matter what computer you have - or internet connection we will be offered a choice of sim that appears to be way ahead of all others After the last videos were shown - Gobsmacked was a common expression - what are we going to say about this?. Of course things are missing - they are POIs and take time to integrate and Yes Sydney is devoid of the bridge and Opera House but Brisbane is brilliant - even without the Westgate bridge - but the Gabba is there!! What will the rest of Australia look like - even the Melbournians will probably - want to see what MS2020 will give them - and as I said personally - I don't need to wait for The Gold Coast - I have the Orbx to keep me happy - I only wish it was for Xplane

FYI!! I was just considering spending a few $s on Caloundra A/P when I noticed that all the photos were designated - "Cessnock" I know I was looking at Caloundra because I used to build aircrafts there because I was involved in building the Skyfox there and the hanger is still there