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  1. And now pics from the last flight just done now. Start, all good TOD after 15 mins. All autogen gone, trees and buildings. When i look behind me there are a few buildings But infront and on sides all is gone Then, around 10k they slowly start to come back To eventually be somewhat normal again. At least on first sight. When looking in front only a tiny area is there and slowly pops in in groups. On direct approach all seems fine. But probably only because one cant look far. That is a behviour inve not seen the last 2 years (in my own sim). And if i saw it i knew where it relates from. Now 2 pics from US and SA will follow. FL 360 openLC NA While it looks a bit more blurry than before the autogen is still there. openLC SA, SAEZ area Its not a big area to be seen in this pic but the autogen went a lot further before the plane. Looks pretty much normal It looks as only EU is hit by the full problem. The other areas may have become a bit more blurry and autogen maybe a small bit less in radius but one has to know the sim well to see it. In the EU on the other hand its more than obvious. But overall it looks that the buildings a re small than im used to. Maybe imagination but on a few pics one can see this here too. They seem to look a bit smaller when they are more away. I mean of course this is normal to some extend.
  2. Thank you. No problem, ill post them together with settings now soon.
  3. Hello. Just as a short intro....(tldr scroll down to "The problem") Im very pleased with my P3D since the last 15 months or something. Everything is running smoothly, good fps, very crisp terrain, no ctds and overll a pleasant experience. That doesnt mean though that i dont know how to fix problems when they occure because i give support, regualry, in a community with couple of hundred ppl. Until this day we could fix nearly every problem. And every here and then im running into a problem myself and if that happens its most of the time something that noone else has and noone is able to support.... Like last year my weird scenery order problem that ive posted here too. Ive got that fixed with LorbySi dev and the tool from him eventually. And now again this time has come. And like always over night basically. Ive made around 4k hours in our VA over the last 2 years, im a tweaker, a support guy and somehat technicaly experienced when it comes to P3D so i pretty much know how my sim behaves and see very early if something isnt right. This problem tunred up overnight, all was fine until one day around 1.5 week ago. Now all that brabbling aside, lets come to the problem finally. (sorry, i just wantt o make you understand that i have tried many many things already until i make a post about a problem). The problem My autogen loads very late in the whole EU region. If i fly an airliner (ex pmdg 748) i see it gone after 10 minutes and its not to be seen again until the descent, around 10k feet it starts to load again. This is very unusualy for my sim, as mentinoned, and ive basically never seen it in this form. Its NOT the "normal" type of problem, like too high settings, running with unlocked fps with high settings, wrong layer order, pc problems, file problems and whatnot. Like mentioned, it comes back at 10k feet but in a too small radius and most often even behind me. It literally loads behind my plane. If it would be casued by too high settings or something alike it wouldnt show up aymore until scenery reload. Also it seems to only happen in EU. NA and SA is unchanged. If its a tiny bit later i cant tell but i still see the autogen even on FL380 and it never disappears. What i also noticed is that unlike noamlly, when other symptoms that come with this problem are blurries, low detail mesh/elevations are appearing together with the late autogen this time it all stays normal. The sim is still same crisp as always and the elevation loads as always too. FPS are great too and anyway i use this settings since 4.4 release, they are always the same. Besides that i know how to set the sim to not overload the cpu. So it seems very unusual. No blurries, detailed elevation, good fps (i lock at 30 and the lock is reached nearly everywhere in the world, in the VC of airliners. It rarely goes to below 30) but no autogen visible over FL100. Now things ive tried already: - shader reset/reload (even this shouldnt have anything to do with it anyway) - migration / lclookup - check scenery order, all good. - delete scenery indexes - lowered the settings (even i know they have nothing to do with it since they are unchanged) - free core 0 from all other load besides p3d itself - deleted last installed airports (PILOTS LEST and PILOTS LEAL) incase they could have messed something up - only started with EU active - check files on openLC EU and Global - reset and check insertion point - try other planes - rebuild p3d.cfg - and probably a few other things.....without luck The problem remains regardless what i do. Ive never seen this. Normally when i come across this in support Its either everywhere in the world or nowhere. But EU only is so weird and i dont know what else i should do. What i changed in the times before the problem came up first: - install PILOTS LEST and LEAL - install PMDG 737 update - changed cloudarts via Skyforce . switch from FTX central to ORBX central - windows updates (....) My setup is as following: - Nvidia RTX 2080 - Intel 7700K on 4.7 ghz - 60hz monitor with lock of 30 fps - fullHD - 16GB Ram - SSD install of win & p3d + orbx files - win 10 1909 - cpuload around 50%, nothing maxed (looking in various tools, not only taskmanager) - gpu load around 50% too - p3d 4.5 hf2 ORBX installs_ - openLC EU, NA, SA (+ SA mesh) - PNW, NCA, SCA, TENL - couple of airports like ESGG, LOWI, LDPL, ESSA, LDDU, PAVD - KPDX city scape + around 60 airports installed. Does anyone have an idea what in all names this can be? Settings untouched, last installed software deinstalled, checked everything, filecheck of mentioned areas, shader reset and still i loose autogen after 10 mins in EU. Ill post a screen of my settings but they arent too high.... THey are around medium overall and never caused an issue. They also work still same well in NA, SA and Asia.
  4. That shouldnt happen. I dont use EF since over a month now and have normal colors. There are "a few" topics on the EF forum about those black textures, maybe you wanna read them. One can use P3D without EF, with own shaders like tomatoshade or PTA too. Not sure how its without those third party tools but even without a standard shader refresh should fix it. If youre on 4.5 you can set a key command to reset shaders.
  5. looks like reshade. Or after effects, yes
  6. i said "low 10s", meaning the lower end of the 10-19 range) :-) You dont call that low? Anyway, call your self blessed to not see this video stutter. It kills my eyes nearly.... But everyone is different here. I meant it not sarcastic or something, call yourself happy to not have very sensitive motion awareness
  7. Then in all honesty you probably have not looked at it. If you call that fine i think you never saw something "fluid".... Just look at the fps counter how it breaks in all fw secs to low 10s of fps. This causes major microstutter and lags. I dont know, that should be very very clearly visible...
  8. Let me explain. Sadly its long.... but some things cannot be put in 2 sentences ^^ I bet many many have this, maybe everyone. Some notice it, some not. Some dont see it because they dont have many addons. Some never see it because they fly GA only where the speed is never so high to make problems for the cpu and other may not see it for other reasons. But i fly P3D on the 4.th system now, very different setups and its always the same after 3-5 Months of flying/installing. Im plagued by this for 100% it seems. i often enough get textures that make so sense basically. Villages that are crossed by woods and streets lead through places where they dont belong to. And of course im very aware that ORBX is not completely detailed and every road is in its place and every location in the right spot.. I mean something different....patchwork basically. See pics below. And this is always just happening after a few months of usage. Its the elevation and mesh that simply doesnt build like they should anymore and i cannot find a way to stop this aging process. Yes, i have many many airports. Around 120. But i know w how to take care in theory. I know about scenery sorting, i know about frames lock to improve terrain, i know about going with lower settings to "get more", all that things. If you look at my previous posts one will find that its mostly screenshots and one also can see that i know how a sim can look, even with low PC. All those pics were either with a 1060 nvidia or 1070, on an i5 most of the time. The one PC cost 800 Euro and the other 1200. And despite that im very well aware how to set a sim to get a stutterfree experience while keeping visuals high. I made guide about this for others, our community and the internet. I just say this to give you an idea that im not someone who sets all sliders right, installs everything he can find to random places and wonders why nothing works anymore. Im different and i can assure you this :-) Back to topic. The problem is that all this "knowledge" about a smooth sim are getting trashed after a few months, after i reinstalled the whole sim again for the 4th time in year. The point will come where the mesh and elevation simply wont look good anymore. Most detail is lost and a region like ORBX South Alaska starts to look not different from Global Base pack. The whole elevation basically is lost. Where super crisp and spiky mountains were before are now just a few hills basically. This may a bit exaggerated but its very very visible. When the sim runs good ppl ask me "what mesh you have installed??? that looks amazing and so crisp" and when i have this state back its more a "p3d looks bad....i love Ortho". Its a big difference. But still a difference "small" enough that i know some ppl dont see... They think P3D looks bad but the thing is it would look a lot better normally.... What is this? What happens that ruins a sim so much in ESP. One would think that tools like Simstarter, where one can only load certain regions would help for this problem but no. If you have it you have it. No way back. Or is there? What can one do to get a somewhat "fresh" state back without reinstalling hundred and hundreds of gigabyte of data....just to see it will be same after 6 month. I mean, it makes no sense to me.... It doesnt seem to be the amount of airports added. Its more the timespan. If i install 50 airports in one week it runs a lot better than with 70 airports after 6 month. Its not really a line, more a curve... What is also very noticeable is that i cannot really fly long time in VC anymore in this "state". Usually i can fly in VC for 5h and the terrain will still look crisp and detailed in elevation etc. But in this state it will look very bad a after a while.... If i dont switch to outside cam and zoom out a lot and let it fly like this i never get good looking terrain anymore...it stays crisp when i turn on highres terrain but i still loose elevation/mesh/detail after a an hour. Also one can see the microstutters increase and the difference of fps between departure and arrival are really high. I depart with 40 and arrive with 25. And this is not a thing of the arrival airport being more demanding. Its always samesame. Now to some questions. Example: One has a sim with 120 airports installed and all the ORBX regions. And he loads the sim via simstarter with only 1 orbx region, the one he flies in and 2 airports. Why is this not the same as a sim where really only those 2 things would be installed? My guess is the files get more, have to be targeted and searched with more resources, the list with files to go through gets bigger, the effect folder gets bigger, the scenery/world folder get stuf and stuff and stuff added and with more files (even they dont get loaded) it all gets slowed down? Or what is the problem here? I have installed P3D last year 3 times fully. Im on the 4th system now with not much higher anymore to go with an oc`ed 7700k and a RTX 2080. Basically if this state (i like to call it that way...) comes back all systems run same. My old i5 and 1060 did the same thing as i can do now when its broken. And there it looked better even at times. If i look my 1 year old pics i see way better mesh/elevation on my flights as i get in such state with highend system. Thats bad... What is that that turns our sims into old hags when they just where young maidens a few months earlier? Now some pics. I will post more soon. Just the most current ones. This is after 30 min in the VC. One can see that each few mins the detail is lost more and more and it all starts to go into some state where textures are just layerd over each other near to random.I know its not random of course. Its just the very basic mesh without all the details. I may be lucky when i go back to outside view and let it fly here for 20 mins. That usually will bring back the details. On this pic the grey/light patches are normally hills... And have far greater detail in polys. From many curves only a edged patch is calculated/displayed. If i overfly this same region in outside cam it looks all amazing spiky, hilly and very detailed. On last pic im not sure but i can imagine that the patch with the factory/silo should be in a more detailed mesh for the given settings and not just be placed over the city in a weird way. Also here im nearly sure it would look very different when i fly only in outside view. Here too. Normally all this area makes fully sense and the textures cover hills, mountain and woods exactly how one expects. But on this pic it looks like it comes from a cheap i3. One can also see that GPU/CPU then simply dont do anything anymore...the gpu idles around with 25% load and the cpu doesnt do much too. Its in sleep mode. So again. Any tipps to not get into this bad behaviour all the time besides only install 2 orbx areas and 5 airports? One can see this very clearly. As soon i go outside view all starts to build up again. The following pics were from a healthy sim with identical settings in the same region.
  9. I would do a file check in FTX central, check the scenery order and insertion point. This is also in the FTX central settings. The insertion point of FTX has to be above standard scenery but below 3.rd prty addon airports. In short words. Then run the migration too for unified iclookup. Also in FTX centra. Check again
  10. Thank you for the explanation Holger. The following thing is long... yes. But i would love you find the time to get into it one day. Or any other mod or knowledgeable person. I may have other problems too that are may be related. Maybe its best to change the topic title too into something like "How can i keep a sim healthy over time". Because when i think about it there are more than this symptom that all hint to some problem with my sim. And all are somehow related to textures or terrain overall. Let me explain. Sadly its long.... but some things cannot be put in 2 sentences ^^ I bet many many have this, maybe everyone. Some notice it, some not. Some dont see it because they dont have many addons. Some never see it because they fly GA only where the speed is never so high to make problems for the cpu and other may not see it for other reasons. But i fly P3D on the 4.th system now, very different setups and its always the same after 3-5 Months of flying/installing. In the above pics its the snow that mention. But in seasons where is no snow i also often enough get textures that make so sense basically. Villages that are crossed by woods and streets lead through places where they dont belong to. And please, im very aware that ORBX is not completely detailed and every road is in its place and every location in the right spot.. I mean something different....patchwork basically. Sadly i dont have a pic now. But anyway its not the only thing. The other is better explainable. And this is the real one. The one that many many people suffer from. Its the elevation and mesh that simply doesnt build like they should anymore and i cannot find a way to stop this aging process. Yes, i have many many airports. Around 120. But i know most things about P3D and i know how to take care in theory. I know about scenery sorting, i know about frames lock to improve terrain, i know about all that things. If you look at my previous posts one will find that its mostly screenshots and one also can see that i know how a sim can look, even with low PC. All those pics were either with a 1060 nvidia or 1070, on eher i5 or i7. The one PC cost 800 Euro and the other 1200. And despite that im very well aware how to set a sim to get a stutterfree experience while keeping visuals high. I made guide about this for others, our community and the internet. I just say this to give you an idea that im not someone who sets all sliders right, installs everything he can find to random places and wonders why nothing works anymore. Im different and i can assure you this :-) Back to topic. The problem is that all this "knowledge" about a smooth sim are getting trashed after a few months, after i reinstalled the whole sim again for the 4th time in year. The point will come where the mesh and elevation simply wont look good anymore. Most detail is lost and a region like South Alaska starts to look not different from Global Base pack. The whole elevation basically is lost. Where super crisp and spiky mountains were before are now just a few hills basically. This may a bit exaggerated but its very very visible. When the sim runs good ppl ask me "what mesh you have installed??? that looks amazing and so crisp" and when i have this state back its more a "p3d looks bad....i love Ortho". Its a big difference. But still a difference "small" enough that i know some ppl dont see... They think P3D looks bad but the thing is it would look a lot better normally.... What is this? What happens that ruins a sim so much in ESP. One would think that tools like Simstarter, where one can only load certain regions would help for this problem but no. If you have it you have it. No way back. Or is there? What can one do to get a somewhat "fresh" state back without reinstalling hundred and hundreds of gigabyte of data....just to see it will be same after 6 month. I mean, it makes no sense to me.... It doesnt seem to be the amount of airports added. Its more the timespan. If i install 50 airports in one week it runs a lot better than with 70 airports after 6 month. Its not really a line, more a curve... What is also very noticeable is that i cannot really fly long time in VC anymore in this "state". Usually i can fly in VC for 2h and the terrain will still look crisp and detailed in elevation etc. But in this state it will look very bad a after a while.... If i dont switch to outside cam and zoom out a lot and let it fly like this i never get good looking terrain anymore...it stays crisp when i turn on highres terrain but i still loose elevation/mesh/detail after a an hour. Also one can see the microstutters increase andand the difference of fps between departure and arrival are really high. I depart with 40 and arrive with 25. And this is not a thing of the arrival airport being more demanding. Its always samesame. Would a "delete generated files" help here or a delete scenery indexes or what... I dont want to reinstall all that again. Its so bad... Would be lovely if someone can answer me this question. It bugs me since i started this hobby... Example: One has a sim with 120 airports installed and all the ORBX regions. And he loads the sim via simstarter with only 1 orbx region, the one he flies in and 2 airports. Why is this not the same as a sim where really only those 2 things would be installed? My guess is the files get more, have to be targeted and searched with more resources, the list with files to go through gets bigger, the effect folder gets bigger, the scenery/world folder get stuf and stuff and stuff added and with more files (even they dont get loaded) it all gets slowed down? Or what is the problem really. I have installed P3D last year 3 times fully. Im on the 4th system now with not much higher anymore to go with an oced 7700k and a RTX 2080. Basically all runs same as on my oldi5 and 1060. And there it looked better even at times. If i look my 1 year old pics i see way better mesh/elevation on my flights as i get in such state with highend system. Thats bad... What is that. This may be the reason that gets me away from p3D one day.
  11. Hello together. First, sorry if this isnt the right place. I have a bit of trouble to order this into the right category. I know that there are hundreds of topics about seasons & orbx but sadly they all lead to either things before FTX or other non related problems. My problem is the same as i saw in those topic but i get it all of the time, in many regions. Sometimes it seems right, sometimes not. I do migrations 15 times per year what seems to solve it sometimes but it will reappear for sure. Im at a loss and it starts to annoy me a bit tbh. I really would like to find the problem here since it destroys all of the experience one could get from seasons. The problem is this: What can cause these things? And why can one get it many times and many other times not? I expect this is not the right outcome, right? Or is this how it should look. I saw this post here and there you say this is fixed with the "full FTX regions". Now, i have them all... nearly. I use Global Base, openLC NA, openLCEU, openLC SA, meshSA, PNW; Rockies, SCAL, NCAL, TrueEarthNL and whatnot. So as i read out of those topics this should not happen here? Well, it does :-) As you can see. So what can be the reason? Usually i know what i have to look out for. Scenery order, insertion point and those things but im pretty sure that myself is doing nothing wrong here. This is EDDN and that one is in Germany South.
  12. One of the nicer experiences.... Anchorage/Alaska is always amazing, ive mentioned it. Today was another overcast free day and the sun gave us some of the nicer views (imo) of the landscape. 1 2 ...... 3. Who can find the star sign? 4. Following another river. My flights seem to lead among rivers hehe. 5 6 look at the moon ^^ Amazing, isnt it 7 8. Ok i lied with the overcast free day.... But soon, trust me ^^ 9 10 Here we go Sleep well Alaska!
  13. ... but it will still be 2 hehe. Munich ppl will know better, this should be either Freising or Attaching. Amazing departure...Too bad i was streaming and too busy to make more pics :-( That plane......................... noone can imagine how much in love i am with the 747-8. Now soon all my flightsim dreams became true. The Asia region and VTBS and a few other Thai airports and all devs can go to holiday for a year if its me ^^
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